Spoilers: Why TERMINATOR: DARK FATE Gave Us That John Connor Twist

Producer James Cameron and Deadpool director Tim Miller’s Terminator: Dark Fate blasted into a theater near you this past Friday. And today, Miller revealed to THR how the massive John Connor twist came about.


Miller reveals: “You’d think [killing John Connor] was a controversial decision, but it wasn’t. There was a lot of talk at the early stages of should this new savior be someone who was connected to the Connors? Should it be John’s daughter or something like that? Which I was always against, because I’m just not a fan of the Chosen One sort of movie as much as I am of a hero sort of rising to meet adversity, who could be an everyman or an everywoman. I identify with those people much more than I do with Neo in The Matrix or King Arthur. So I was all for this being some new person that wasn’t connected to the Connors and had been chosen by the hand of fate.

He adds: “We all knew a couple of things. One: Sarah Connor is not a happy character. She is best when she is driven and tragic and you need some rocket fuel for that. You can’t have John be a 36-year-old accountant somewhere. And really, when you think about it, he could be sort of a pathetic figure as a man who had missed his moment in history and was relegated to this banal, ordinary existence, when in fact had Sarah not chosen to destroy Cyberdyne, he would be the leader of humanity. Nobody wants to see that. Secondly, [John’s death], that’s rocket fuel for Sarah. And lastly, you need to clear the stage for these new characters. They are not going to be able to have their moment, or come into their moment, with John hanging around. There’s just no good way to do that. Everybody was in pretty strong agreement, and the way to start it, was really, you want to have this dramatic impact. You want to slap the audience in the face and say, “Wake up. This is going to be different.” I feel like that accomplished that. I hate the violence of it. I hate the idea of a kid being shot, but the dramatic fuel that it gives the story is undeniable.”

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Written by Mike Sprague


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  1. That was a pretty shocking way to begin the movie, to say the least. But it helped set the stage for everything that followed. I loved everything about the film – the incredible action, glimpses into a different future, the strong female characters, and how it all tied into the immigration crisis. Of course, there will be fanboys put off by some of this because they’re intimidated by strong women, can’t read subtitles or don’t want to deal with important issues, but they’re hopeless. Dark Fate was a more than worthy entry in the Terminator franchise and I hope we get a follow-up.

  2. You want to slap the audience in the face and say, “Wake up. This is going to be different…” and then go ahead and make the exact same movie but just make the characters all girls and add politically correct globalization characters in it. Can you believe they pay money to people who are this freaking stupid? I feel like he should team up with Roland Emmerich and reboot Titanic with Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck but set it in space and have it hit an asteroid with Alien eggs on it. That would be a ‘slap in the face’ for audiences too. 

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