Friday the 13th: Top 13 WTF Moments

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As much as I love it, the Friday the 13th series isn’t bound by strong continuity. Jason’s look fluctuates like the weather, people flock to Camp Crystal Lake in droves, and WHY does the camp look like it’s in a different state in every film (don’t answer that)?

That’s not to begin trying to piece together a strict sense of passing time through the Paramount-era films. Ever try? If you date everything out the best you can do is place Friday the 13th Part VII: The New Blood in the year 1999 or 2000. This is amazingly problematic to say the least considering Kevin Blair runs around in denim the entire movie.

Along the way there have been many WTF moments. Characters disappear, others reappear. People stumble in out of nowhere just to be killed and then forgotten. Having different creative teams behind each production often results in hilarious lapses in logic that cannot easily be explained, while some stylistic choices are just bizarre. There’s obviously no way for a “top ten” (or top 13, as it were) to cover them all, but this list references some obvious choices along with a few genuine oddities. Their common ground? All of them make the viewer say, ”what the fuck?”

Friday the 13th:  Top 13 WTF Moments

13. Jason’s overnight growth spurt between 2 & 3.

We’ll start with an easy one. It’s such a puzzling choice because, in the span of one night, Mr. Voorhees springs up several inches, sheds his ginger locks and decides his backwoods-y wardrobe has gone out of style. Or something.

So yeah, from this:

Friday the 13th:  Top 13 WTF Moments

To this:

Friday the 13th:  Top 13 WTF Moments

How? Why? Doesn’t matter. One assumes director Steve Miner wanted a bigger, more imposing presence for his second sequel, but hey, at least they cared enough to keep him in his overalls for the flashback attack on Chris later in the movie (more on that later).

12. Yeah, I’m afraid of water now… (Freddy vs. Jason)

There’s a lot wrong with Freddy vs. Jason, but the biggest WTF moment comes when it’s revealed that Jason is deathly afraid of water. Never mind all of Jason’s prior traipses into Crystal Lake, FvJ stages an 11th hour retcon in a desperate attempt to make the character more “sympathetic.” It sucks.

Friday the 13th:  Top 13 WTF Moments

But Jason didn’t have these issues while waiting for a late-night skinny dipper in The Final Chapter, nor did he mind wading into fiery waters for a final confrontation with nemesis Tommy Jarvis in Jason Lives. He spent a decade chained to a rock at the bottom of the lake and that didn’t seem to bother him either! Maybe he’s just timid in his undead age? It had to be something other than ”the filmmakers simply didn’t give a shit”, right?

11. Zombie Dad (Friday the 13th Part VII: The New Blood)

Apparently Jason wasn’t the only corpse rotting beneath Crystal Lake. John Shepard, the raging alcoholic who goes to his watery grave in the prologue, apparently was left to rot after the collapsed dock was cleared away and then rebuit.

It’s unlikely that his corpse wasn’t tangled up in the debris, though. And how deep is Crystal Lake where the body couldn’t have been recovered (this is true for Jason, too)? Did the police even LOOK? Knowing their success rate, it’s probably safe to assume they did not (more on them later).

Of course, this doesn’t excuse how lame Shepard looks when he comes flying out of the water just in time to drag Jason back down into the raging shallows of Crystal Lake. I know director John Carl Buechler fought for a cooler-looking Shep zombie, but the idea was nixed by one of the producers.

Well, producer, this is the impression your film leaves:

Friday the 13th:  Top 13 WTF Moments

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10. Odd radio announcer (Friday the 13th part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan)

I love Jason Takes Manhattan. Every second of it. And nothing sets this film in motion better than the incredibly baffling radio announcer at the beginning of the film.

Friday the 13th:  Top 13 WTF Moments

Unfortunately, there is no YouTube video of it so I had to reproduce the incredibly awkward narration in text:

“It’s like this… We live in claustrophobia, the land of steel & concrete. Trapped by dark waters. There is no escape. Nor do we want it. We’ve come to thrive on it and each other. You can’t get the adrenaline pumpin’ without the terror, good people… I love this town.”


It gets even stranger when the movie transitions back to Crystal Lake, with our opening victims listening to him be all creepy/cryptic:

“This request has gone out to Crystal Lake, and the senior class of Lakeview High. They’ll be graduating on the 13th of this month. And we wish them the best of luck and success when they come to visit our seductive city. Our lure is a great one, young friends, but beware…the city of lights casts many shadows indeed.”

Why is he so ominous!? And why does a NYC DJ care that some rural New Jersey kids are taking a class trip into the city? In its opening minutes, this sets up the rest of Jason Takes Manhattan oh so perfectly.

Having said that, it’s cool to note that Crystal Lake has a Lakeview High, right?

9. That awkward time they changed Crystal Lake’s name… (Friday the 13th part VI: Jason Lives)

This isn’t a slight on Jason Lives as much as it is on the films that followed. It’s somewhat understandable that a town marred by endless murder would seek to change its reputation. So Crystal Lake became Forest Green. But why in God’s name did the township decide, sometime after Friday 6, that it was time to change it back?

Friday the 13th:  Top 13 WTF Moments

It must not be cost-effective to go back to Crystal Lake, right? I mean you have to redesign the logos on all of the municipal vehicles again, for starters. It means slugging through a lot of bureaucracy to get it done. Wouldn’t it be better for the town of Forest Green to heal? To gradually forget that they birthed one of the most enduring mass murderers in history? Or did Crystal Lake become an all too lucrative tourist location? Chances are all future filmmakers just hoped we’d forget about this little detail.

8. ”He’s killing me!” (Friday the 13th – The Final Chapter)

Here’s an odd and polarizing moment in the franchise. Rob Dyer, vengeance-seeking Jason hunter, ventures into the basement of a neighboring house only to be attacked by the masked madman. Instead of fighting back, he resigns to his fate, screaming repeatedly, ”he’s killing me!”

And odd moment, to be sure, and one that seems to divide its audience in half. Some find it unintentionally hilarious while others find it deeply chilling. Supposedly, the moment was culled from a real-life news story where a 911 call recorded a murder victim screaming out ”Please stop killing me!” The moment stuck with director Joseph Zito so much that he included it here.

It is the very last kill in the following video:

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7. Mrs. Voorhees finds her head! (Friday the 13th part III)

The end of Friday the 13th part III mirrors the finish of the original movie. So the filmmakers saw fit to mimic the “Jason jump” that lifted audiences from their seats in the summer of 1980. But there was one problem: Jason was “dead” in the barn. That meant the final jump scare needed to fall to the other murderous member of the Voorhees clan:

Friday the 13th:  Top 13 WTF Moments

It’s a nice try but perhaps it’s a bit more baffling than it needs to be, considering Pamela suddenly has her head. And what in the holy hell is she doing at the bottom of the lake? One assumes her body (minus the head) was recovered at the end of the original film. Furthermore, the next film in the series reveals that she’s buried randomly on the side of some country road.

Either way, she’s decidedly not rotting at the bottom of the Crystal Lake.

6. Vinnie & Pete, really? (Friday the 13th – A New Beginning)

This is something that seems stranger the older I get. Two greasers who look like they stumbled out of William Friedkin’s Cruising break down on a desolate country road in Crystal Lake while en route to rendezvous with some ladies. At least that’s what the movie tells us.

Where are they going dressed like that? Why does Pete think it’s a good idea to shit in the woods before meeting up for a date? And what’s Roy Burns doing out there with a road flare at the ready? There’s plenty of strange bits in Friday 5, but everything about this scene just seems odd-that’s exactly why I love it.

5. What in God’s name happened to these people? (Friday the 13th part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan)

The Lazarus departs for New York City early in Jason Takes Manhattan, revealing several shots of non-principal cast members lounging around and enjoying the luxuries of this ocean liner.

Friday the 13th:  Top 13 WTF Moments

Friday the 13th:  Top 13 WTF Moments

The problem? They’re never seen again. This means that many of the Lazarus’ passengers stayed in their cabins and refused to come out, even once the ship began taking on water. They drowned, rather than escape. Every time our survivors abandon ship, I can’t help but think back to these earlier scenes and wonder why we never saw dozens of extras hopping overboard.

Of course, it also cements Jason’s status as the ultimate slasher. How many others could torpedo a cruise ship? Badass.

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4. It’s almost like you guys aren’t really trying … (All movies)

With the exception of Jason Lives, which saw pro-active and (largely) intelligent police, the rest of Crystal Lake’s finest seem to enforce the law with the least amount of effort possible.

From their refusal to check on the kids in Friday 3 (despite the unsolved killing spree the night before) and then again in Friday 4 (where now there have been two bloodbaths and a missing killer) – their ineptitude is staggering. In Friday 5, Sheriff Tucker suspects Jason Voorhees is behind the murders but does’t do a damn thing until the post-climax epilogue.

How many lives might’ve been saved if he’d done the detective work to connect Joey and Roy? I guess we’ll never find out.

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3. The rape theory… (Friday the 13th part III)

One of the most interesting discussions to come out of the series is the rape theory from Friday 3. When Chris recalls her earlier encounter with Jason, she admits to blacking out while being dragged into the woods. But she doesn’t remember anything more.

So what happened? Was Jason scared away by a search party? Did the “frightened retard” have his way with an early victim before deciding that he liked murder better? Why wouldn’t Chris’ parents talk about what happened? What are they hiding?

I honestly don’t know how I feel about this theory, but I appreciate that it exists. It gives Jason an extra dimension of creepiness and certainly makes for conversation.

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2. Who took that picture!? (Friday the 13th – A New Beginning)

In the ultimate example of someone just not thinking, we have a semi-recent picture of Jason taken up close and personal. But how? Of the lucky few people to have survived one of Jason’s killing sprees, no one ever took his picture.

Maybe (and this is a HUGE maybe), you can rationalize this as security camera footage from the hospital. But considering the angle, that doesn’t really work.

So what we have is a massive head scratcher. A moment where the filmmakers (I love you, Danny Steinmann) tried to pull a fast one and hoped no one would notice. The end result? One of my favorite WTF moments in the entire franchise.

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1. Toxic waste flood! (Friday the 13th part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan)

I know. This isn’t all that creative. I can remember begging my father to take me to see Jason Takes Manhattan in the theater when I was ten years old. He dragged his feet for a week or two and when he finally acquiesced it was too late. The damn thing was out of the theaters and I was completely crushed (he got his when he had to later take me to Jason Goes to Hell instead).

Especially when I had to hear about it from a bunch of eighth graders who’d been able to sneak in on opening weekend. When I told my father that it ended with Jason drowning in a flood of toxic waste in the NYC sewer system, he responded with, ”that sounds like a bunch of bullshit.”

And he was right.

But, c’mon, there’s an inimitable charm to that kind of ending. Something a modern film wouldn’t have the cajones to attempt for fear of crashing the Internet. If someone tweeted today that an upcoming horror sequel ended with a killer bested by a flood of toxic sludge that rockets through the sewers every night at midnight it wouldn’t be pretty.

It’s dumb, nonsensical (why is that city worker down there a minute to the flood?) and amazing. And there’s no way it couldn’t take the number one spot on this list.

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Matt Serafini

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  • cinnamonunicorn

    Can you state your reasoning behind how you came to the conclusion that “New Blood” would be set in 99/2000? I am not doubting you at all, I just never caught that and I find it really interesting to talk about timelines in horror films.

    • Masked Slasher

      Sure. So if The Final Chapter is set in 1984, A New Beginning and Jason Lives have to be several years later. At the EARLIEST you would be able to set it around 1989/1990 – Tommy would have to be 17/18 years old.

      So if you look at the beginning of THE NEW BLOOD, it opens with Jason at the bottom of the lake, so it’s set after JASON LIVES. After the prologue, there’s about a ten year time jump (so Tina can be a teenager) – placing the film around 1999/2000.

  • Cinemascribe

    There are some terrific examples listed in this thread. Let me add that perhaps the greatest F13 WTF of them all has to be when Tommy inexplicably goes from wielding a knife while wearing the hockey mask to being just..Tommy.

    When we leave Tommy at the conclusion of A New Beginning, he’s lost his battle for sanity and is approaching the blond from the behind, knife raised for the kill, eyes blazing with psychosis, poised literally on the cusp of picking up where Jason left off. Hell,there’s a even a legitimate dark and stormy night going on the other side of the broken hospital room window to add to the atmosphere of doom.

    But in the pre-title sequence of the next film, Jason Lives, he’s now out of the institution and driving through the night , on the hunt for Jason’s corpse with…. Horseshack?

  • shape350

    I always thought vinny and pete in part 5 were very odd, so its great you pointed this out. to the way they were dressed to him taking a shit in the woods before seeing ladies, to saying “ra-ta-ta-tooee” (which when that animated movie about the rat with the similar sounding name came out, I immediately thought of this). although, part 5 is great and I was actually writing an “interqual” in high school between parts 5 & 6 which wouldve tied them together (and delved more into the psyche of tommy jarvis’ psyche with jason, and would also explain how he has his mask in part 6, right down to axe cut). couple of WTF moments I would like to add here:

    1. why didn’t axel in part 4 put jason into the icebox the second they got him? it seems weird that he would leave a deformed psychopath, presumably dead, in the open, especially when trying to have sex with a nurse?

    2. At the end of part 8, Jason is turned back into a child by coming into contact with toxic waste. YET, in JGTH, he is a fully grown adult again. now director rob hedden explains this more in his interview on the DVD of why Jason is a child, but like I said in regards to Jason horniest kills….the only good thing to come out of JGTH was the sex scene.

    3. Also, in Part 8, where the fuck did Jason get gloves after being underwater for about a year, and having the gloves he had in part 6 deteriorate within the 10 years between part 7?

    4. Jason killed a cop who saw him running across the road in part 2, yet the police department doesn’t seem to question this, nor is his car in the middle of the road when the counslers go to drink that night? Also, you did reference how retarded the cops are.

    5. After getting Rick’s windshield bashed in, Shelly doesn’t even apologize, nor is Rick pissed at this idiot…..

    6. Why would a halfway house for troubled teens give the job of chopping wood to a psycho like VIctor Hadden?

    7. One last thing….what about those “damn enchilladas”!

    Overall, terrific! I may have to use some of this on my website blog once its up and running!

  • DavidFullam

    That’s why I have a soft spot for the series. Whether by accident or design, the makers said “Fuck it, let’s do our own thing.” Although the aqua phobia in F vs. J was annoying.

  • Sirand

    For me, the biggest WTF moment came in Part 2 where they try to explain the Jason mythology. “So he survived drowning…and then he hid in the woods for decades and then randomly saw his Mom getting murdered by the lake…and vowed revenge…”


    The whole Friday the 13th mythos make NO SENSE whatsoever. That’s why I didn’t care when they suddenly said he was afraid of water in FvJ. It’s not like they took any care into the writing to begin with.

  • JB Demented

    Cool list. Theres so many WTF moments in the Ft13th series. Theres a WTF moment Ive always wondered about The Final Chapter. When Robs in His tent hearing Paul scream in agony across the woods (due to the spear to the groin…ouch) Rob has both a rifle and a machete at His disposal to take with Him to investagate. So what does he choose? Jasons all time favorite weapon the machete. And as Hes searching, Rob hears a snapping sound, turns around and notices someone is walking away from His tent. And then we come to find that Robs rifle was broken. Now My question is why the hell didnt He take the rifle instead? Jason never took any gunfire until Part 6. Maybe in parts 2-4 a gunshot may have done Jason some serious damage, but I guess well never know.

    • shape350

      good call JB, i am close going to point out how Jason went from underneath the dock to speargunning paul in the groin to robs tent in 10 seconds flat?

  • Genrewriter

    Good stuff, Matt. I think the ending of Part 8 was essentially an excuse for Kane Hodder to do his “vomiting water on command” party trick. Makes the scene worth it in my book.

  • kiddcapone

    Let’s take a look at the beginning of part 2. How exactly did Jason find out where Alice lived? Is he part bloodhound? Did she leave her purse behind and he found her name and address? No one noticed a giant mongoloid wearing a potato sack asking for directions or hitchhiking?

    Or part 4. Why the fuck did Gordon the dog randomly jump through the upstairs window? I always just assumed Jason threw the dog out, but when you watch it, Jason is no where near the upstairs window. I believe he was in the basement at the time. Did Gordon commit Doggie Suicide?

    • shape350

      its explained in the comic book tie in or novel of how jason knew…when she came back to visit the camp he memorized her license plate…although how would he know this by memorizing it? im thinking possibly he looked at her IDs when she came back to visit but i dont think he can even read

  • Cinemascribe

    This is a spot on list but I’m actually surprised by your choice for the first entry. Even more of a WTF moment than the shift in Jason’s appearance between the 2cnd and 3rd films is the bizarre nature of his development between the end of the original and part 2 when, apparently, this particular reanimated corpse of a drowned boy grew to adulthood in two months (according to head counselor Paul, Alice disappeared two months after the events of the original film – yet the figure stalking her in the pre title sequence of Part 2 is clearly fully grown).

    • Masked Slasher

      I think it has more to do with the fact that the ending of F13 was intended to be a dream.

      I always have that in the back of my head now.

      But if you do take it literally, I agree, it’s completely baffling.

  • Terminal

    Somehow I saw this list coming a mile away. I find the inconsistencies part of the series’ charms. Gotta love F13.

  • LSD Zombie

    Really funny stuff Matt! That scene in Part 8 where Rennie sees a hallucination of both a white and asian Jason was also hilarious. Part 5 and 8 are without a doubt the worst of the series, but they’re still charming to me in a very oddball sort of way. Although they are still better than the remake.