For those of you who had maybe partially, out of the corner of your eye, been looking forward to Halloween 2 since the guys behind Inside were being circled to handle it, please return to your regularly scheduled angst; Variety has confirmed that Rob Zombie is officially back on board as director.
Not such a bad thing, actually, save that Dimension has also tapped the rock start turned movie maker to write the sequel, as well, which almost anyone with a sense of what is “good” and what is “bad” will tell you is, flat-out, “bad”. The new film will, similar to Carpenter’s sequel, pick up mere moments after the first one ended.
So why is he back after making it so very clear he wouldn’t be? "I was so burned out. (But) I took a long break, made a record and I got excited again," he told Variety. "Now, we'll be hauling ass, and that's the problem making a movie called 'Halloween': If you come out Nov. 1 or after, nobody cares. If it was called anything else, I'd be fine."
The sequel is being refered to by the trade as H2, which is annoyingly close to H20, and both Zombie and The Weinsteins want it in theaters by next Halloween. Production will roll in March so expect to hear more soon!
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Wonder what he'll do to it this time in the Dread Central forums!
Submitted by Johnny Butane on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 4:36am.
I'm with Pelusa - I'd love to see how Michael survived that gun shot to the face (which was incidentally, one of the only effective scenes IMO).
I suppose Laurie was losing it at the end because she missed.
Submitted by Kyle Reese on Thu, 12/18/2008 - 8:14am.
With Halloween... ANYTHING is possible!
A shot in the face is nothing... Remember Loomis shot Michael in the face (well, the eyes to be exact) at the end of Halloween 2, but by the time we get to Halloween 4, 5, 6 etc. they're back again! There's a very touching scene in the attic in Halloween 5, where Michael is crying as he is about to kill Jamie... His eyes in that scene look pretty much okay to me! So you see, a shot in the face a few years ago... eyes still there a few years later!
As I said before... ANYTHING is possible with Halloween!!!
Submitted by PelusaMG on Thu, 12/18/2008 - 10:03am.
Zounds.
Possibly even, gadzooks.
I dont think i've ever seen such a large division between the boards as the Grand Canyon like tear that the Halloween remake invokes. Its akin to the eternal debate of whether Devlin and Emmerich deserve a slow and painful death for the '98 Godzilla flick,preventing them from ever making another shitfest of a movie that both burns and dehumanizes, or if they should be tortured to within an inch of their life, and left maimed, forever to suffer and forced to watch things without CGI, like romantic comedies starring Jimmy Stewart.
Submitted by Demonmonkey on Thu, 12/18/2008 - 2:18am.
"Gadzooks!"
Wow! I haven't heard that phrase since "Rentaghost"!!!
*NOTE: I'm showing my age here!*
Submitted by PelusaMG on Thu, 12/18/2008 - 9:58am.
Having enjoyed "The Devil's Rejects", I was really excited about the prospect of RZ's Halloween... However, when I sat down to watch it I turned it off after an hour; totally bored and amazed that the same guy who created and directed some intense action scenes in TDR, had foisted this this flacid piece of motion picture dullness onto us! What a let down (no pun intended)!!! I hope that whatever RZ does next with this franchise, that it's significantly better (and more inspired) than his first attempt!
Submitted by PelusaMG on Wed, 12/17/2008 - 3:37pm.
Hey, who wants some pumpkin pie and ice cream?
Submitted by Gus Bjork on Wed, 12/17/2008 - 11:33am.
Wow! I'm new to this message thing and can't believe the hostility. I thought the movie was OK. Nothing to get pissed over. Yes, Rob Zombie movies are nothing original, but I've enjoyed parts of all of them. I really liked Devil's Rejects. Not a big fan of his music. Doesn't make me smarter or dumber than anybody. Some people seem like they need to chill.
Submitted by shaneg on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 7:45pm.
shaneg, don't let this particular board give you the wrong idea. Some of these guys are just trolling and it gets everyone all emotional. This is the worst I've seen it in quite some time.
If this keeps up, I swear to god I'll turn this car around!
Submitted by frank_dracman on Wed, 12/17/2008 - 10:50am.
At this point, the remake trend doesn't even bother me anymore. I think much of it has to do with the fact that my all-time favorite movie, "Psycho," has already been remade and I often talk to people who don't even remember a remake coming out. These things come and go, we bitch about them and then everyone forgets they exist. Granted, I run into kids from time-to-time that mention some current remake as the best movie ever, and that the original couldn't be good because it's "old and boring," but I'm getting good and tuning this stuff out. Whatever, right? In the grand scheme of things, the originals will be remembered forever as long as art is cherished and (most) remakes will be nothing but footnotes.
Let the public have its remakes and sequels to remakes. I have tons of films from the past and present I've yet to see to occupy my free time. No worries here.
Oh, and I disagree that horror is dead. The thing is, as much as I love this genre, I think the number of great, 10 out of 10 horror films is pretty low. Less than ten horror films would make my list of "Top 100 Movies of All-Time" list.
Submitted by What The Cat Dr... on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 7:06pm.
I disagree that horror is dead as well. Let the big budget studios make their bullshit remakes and sequels. We'll ALWAYS have indie films and foreign flicks. Most of the best horror movies I've seen this year got really shit releases. If we want horror, we just need to seek out the non-mainstream horror flicks (God knows, there's plenty of those).
Submitted by Doc Block on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 9:08pm.
I'm not only waiting to see how RZ credibly (I use that term reservedly) resurrects Myers, but also dying to know how he gets Sherri into this film... I'm betting she appears as some nurse-death-fodder of some sort!!!
Submitted by PelusaMG on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 6:46pm.
God, how the Haterade doth flow... Some of you dudes need to kiss and make up. Then fuck.
Submitted by MagusMaleficus on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 5:49pm.
LOL..I don't think any of the loosers I have been fighting with here can afford me..LOL.
Submitted by Moondragon69 on Wed, 12/17/2008 - 3:59am.
It just makes you a guy who can think for yourself and doesn't constantly bitch about anything and everything.
Submitted by Fireflyfan on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 3:39pm.
Yeah. When the remake came out last year, I saw so many people saying negative shit. And they were all saying the same thing. Like they copied and pasted eachother's negative comments. Maybe some of them are the ones who can't think for themselves.
Submitted by Moondragon69 on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 4:14pm.
OR maybe they all agreed on the same points! Rob Zombie's Halloween was utter shit. I have showed it to my friends just for some unintentional laughs. The "MICHAEL!!!...JESUS CHRIST!!!" scene still makes me crack up. And for those curious I didn't buy or rent it. I checked out from the library because that's where I can see shit films without paying a penny.
Submitted by Doc Block on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 9:04pm.
Well, no matter, I disagree with them, and I don't really give a shit what they thought.Zombies Halloween fucking rocked, and they were just dicks looking for something to bitch about.But it sure was fun pissing them off.. And it doesn't matter if you bought it or rented it, or rented it for free or stole it. You still watched it when it sounds like you only watched it because you expected to hate it..You could have spent that time watching a movie you actually wanted to watch. I don't even watch the movies I think are going to be lame if I can watch them for free. You are just looking for an excuse to bitch. If you are that upset by the remake, you could, I don't know, pretend it doesn't exist like I pretend all the movies I hate don't exist.
Submitted by Moondragon69 on Wed, 12/17/2008 - 3:45am.
I enjoyed the remake.
Does that make me a bad person? Or just a person with very questionable taste and morals?
Submitted by Demonmonkey on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 3:12pm.
I'll get hung from a meathook by the scrotum for saying so, but I think RZ did a fine job of making Halloween distinctly his own. Despite the ill-advised Weinstein Bros. reshoots, the film hooks me every time I watch it, and I'm looking forward to seeing where Zombie takes it from here.
Submitted by jonny_numb on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 8:27pm.
Hey, if someone tries that shit, I've got your back.
It is just insane the way certain people get so pissed because someone actually liked the Halloween remake. I saw a lot of that all over the internet last year. It was worse than fights about politics and religion I see at other places I post.
Submitted by Moondragon69 on Wed, 12/17/2008 - 4:14am.
No, it doesn't make you a bad person, or one with questionable taste. I enjoyed the remake as well. And I still love the original. And I love plenty of other movies that fall along the spectrum of "good" and "not so good."
Hell, this is the website that shit all over the Halloween remake and then went out of its way to praise the thoroughly mediocre and silly THE MIST. So there's that.
Submitted by mansuave on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 6:49pm.
Have to disagree about The Mist. That has become one of my all time favorites. I sat in the theater thinking, "This movie was made just for me!" I loved everything about it. I also love movies that everyone else hates, so what do I know?
Submitted by shaneg on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 8:34pm.
You say that Frank Darabont's The Mist is mediocre and silly but you enjoyed Zombie's Halloween?
Other head-scratching comments peppered throughout this thread: Rob Zombie puts thought, effort and energy into everything he does. The characters in his remake had more depth than those in the original. HELL YEAH!
Did I just wake up in Bizzaro world or is this some kind of an elaborate joke?
Submitted by David on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 8:18pm.
Ah the old ''horror is dead''....
Yeah because that's not cliched and wheeled out every other week.
Some of you are so predictable.
Submitted by Fireflyfan on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 2:24pm.
You know what...I just don't give a fuck anymore. Remake every classic and if it really sucks balls, give it a few sequels too. If Rob Zombie isn't busy making shitty music or trailer park trash movies, let him direct everything possible.
Bottom Line: Stupid people keep shelling out cash to watch shitty sequels/remakes and movie studios keep making money hand over fist. Nothing will ever break this trend and it will never stop. Get used to it.
Horror is dead...or at least, on life support.
Submitted by kiddcapone on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 2:21pm.
Obviously you are such an elitist wanna be film critic that you can't even tell the decent remakes from the bad ones. If you really paid attention to everything Rob does, you would know how much thouht, effort and energy he puts into his work. His remake of Halloween was no different. I liked that he gave Micheal Myers more of a backstory, and to be honest the characters in his remake had more depth than those in the original. I love the original, I have watched it probably hundreds of times, I have it in my collection. But in a lot of ways I liked the remake more. That is my opinion, I am not going to force it on anyone. But I don't see where you fucking get off calling people who don't agree with your opinion stupid. Basically, your opinion is no better than anyone else's, no matter which movies you consider good, so don't be talking shit about people just because they have different tastes than you.
Yeah go cry about how horror is "dead". You can't fucking kill horror, it has changed over the decades but it is not dead. And you are just an elitist wanna be critic who tries to make himself important by talking shit. You probably don't even know shit about most of Rob Zombie's other work. I bet if asked you couldn't even tell us which of his songs are the most well known.
Submitted by Moondragon69 on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 4:10pm.
The characters had MORE DEPTH? Are you mad?
Every character in Zombie's film is a shallow stereotype. His very idea of a serial killer comes off as a copy of copy of every textbook movie psychopath as written by a fourteen year old emo kid.
Carpenter's film was smarter, richer and more groundbreaking than anything Zombie will ever produce in his lifetime. The new Halloween is nothing more than a one-note moron movie with delusions of grandeur. No one will be celebrating it in twenty years. Hell, hardly anyone is celebrating it a year later.
If you like it, that's fine, but don't pretend it's anything more than a mindless trailer-trash inspired body count film.
Submitted by Sirand on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 6:35pm.
That's fucking funny....
Usually I chalk up people who disagree with my point of view as different strokes for different folks. But the Halloween remake is a different story. I can say with complete confidence that anyone who likes the Halloween remake more than the original is a fucking retard. Hell, anyone who LIKED the movie period is a fucking retard. It's a complete piece of garbage. It's an abortion of epic proportions.
Rob Zombie puts thought and effort into his work? Are you kidding me? Rob has directed exactly 3 unoriginal pieces of shit. Every film deals with low-life trailer park trash who curse more than Jason Mewes on drugs. What talent does that take? I guess using phrases like "Skull fuck" makes him a genius.
The characters in the remake were about as shallow as a puddle. Depth? A whore stripper mother. The abusive step-dad. Poor low-life trailer park Mikey is just a victim of his enviroment. That's original? That's pretty much the backstory for 50% of all real-life serial killers. The fact Rob Zombie, and obviously you, don't understand what made Michael Myers scary in the first place, proves my point that fans of the remake are fucking retarded.
Oh...and I couldn't care less about what songs he wrote that are well known. I've heard enough of them to know they suck balls. I don't know what songs from Michael Bolton are well known either, but...well, I think you get where I'm going.
And yes...horror is dead. Dead because retards like you pay money and support assholes like Rob Zombie into making more pieces of shit and passing them off as legit horror films. The same assholes who go see Prom Night and other PG-13 pieces of shit and make money for movie studios who don't give a fuck about making quality flicks or original material.
In the immortal words of the talented Rob Zombie's dialogue for Dr Loomis...."MICHAEL MYERS...JESUS CHRIST !!!!". Or another of my favs "Why did Myers come back", "I don't know...but IT CAN'T BE GOOD...". HOLY FUCKING SHIT. HAHAHAHA.
Submitted by kiddcapone on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 5:25pm.
Wow, I guess you know everything about me..LOL..Douche. I haven't even seen the remake of Prom Night, for the most part I am not very fond of most newer PG-13 horror movies, although I am not going to be a bitch and call people who like those movies names..Seriously, you need to fucking get over yourself, your opinion is not the only right one.
And by the way, what the fuck do you call the way Annie was acting in the original? She was kind of a one demensional whore. Who the Hell takes off their clothes and runs around the house in just a shirt and panties when they are babysitting someone else's kid?
LOL..And you are going to bitch about the swearing in Rob's movies? You know, people swear in real life. Everyone I know has a fucking filthy mouth.
Submitted by Moondragon69 on Wed, 12/17/2008 - 3:55am.
But on the other hand Sirand, who gives a shit what you think?
I enjoyed the Halloween remake, and it made tons of cash, so the guy did something right obviously.
Submitted by Fireflyfan on Tue, 12/16/2008 - 2:16pm.