Dinner for Fiends – Winner For Fiends

A new Dinner for Fiends, and it hasn’t even been six months? How did that happen? Well, it did. And after last episode’s scream-a-palooza, you’ll find this installment either refreshingly mellow or disappointingly not a seething cauldron of nerd rage. Give it a listen if you can pry yourself away from Grand Theft Auto V long enough to do so.

A thoughtful 30-minute discussion debating the pros and (mostly) cons of the series finale of “Dexter” starts off the show. From there Andrew, Fini, Buz, Foy, and Uncle Creepy engage in less thoughtful discussions of The World’s End, Maniac, Insidious Chapter 2, Prisoners, Lesson of the Evil, and Riddick, during which I definitively solve the mystery of Riddick’s sexual proclivities.

We’ll also each offer up a few horror movies we think Hollywood should remake. I tell an abbreviated version of the long story as to how I ended up getting a story credit on the Syfy original movie Ghost Shark and what my original version would have been like. Fini reveals his irrational hatred for Charlie Hunnam. And Buz – Buz is all about winning.

As has been the case of late, this Dinner for Fiends is another marathon session that will probably take you three months to listen to – just in time for when we should be recording the next show. See how it all works out? Winning!

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    • James Coker

      Noticed his strong Hate for Curse of Chucky now just noticed starting a long debate about how evil Walter White is
      …LSD Zombie may become the new ‘Terminal’….maybe

      • aliensharkboy

        LOL

        • Rottenjesus

          Nobody can aspire the delusional heights attained by the man-myth known as Terminal. Movie critic and WALKING DEAD slash fan fiction writer extraordinaire!

      • LSD Zombie

        I could never be as stubborn as that guy. Nor could I be excited about the RoboCop remake.

        • Rottenjesus

          At least YOU would actually write a review of that horrible piece of shit TOTAL RECALL remake and admit you were 50 shades of wrong but not Terminal. He’s reviewing Walking Dead hardcore porn parodies instead because he’s a critical force to be reckoned with!

          And that’s the last time I ever talk about that jackass.

    • GODFLESH69

      Good listen thanks guys! Did you cover Elysium yet? I just wanted to hear your point of view since i guess you mostly all didn’t dig as much as i did. I would love to see a Damnation Alley remake if done right could be epic, cannabals, killer flesh eating cockroaches with todays effects and the right cast could be classic! I would also like to see a sequel or follow up to the Blob and Lifeforce which to me deserved so much better than when it was released
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    • aliensharkboy

      Had I seen Maniac prior to sending fan mail, I’d have mentioned that too. It is indeed as good as the hype suggests. Great podcast! I’m now expecting a Breaking Bad season finale talk in the next episode (it may not be genre, but it’d be wrong not rub in Dexter’s face how you REALLY do a finale, right?).

      Keep ’em coming!

      PS: I was gonna send a concerned message, but… I just didn’t. No excuses XD

    • LSD Zombie

      I completely disagree with the claim that Walt was evil. People that are truly evil would never show any guilt or remorse over their actions. Which is something that Walt showed on several occasions.

      • Uncle Creepy

        Walt showed remorse for maybe 10% of the deaths he caused. Everyone else was a “casualty.”

        • LSD Zombie

          That doesn’t matter. A display of emotion, no matter how frequent, still counts as an emotional reaction. And all of Walt’s victims were involved in the meth business themselves.

          • Uncle Creepy

            Dude, I’m sure even the biggest of villains have felt bad for something in their lives. That doesn’t mean that they’re not prone to commit vile acts of evil, which Walt absolutely was.

            • LSD Zombie

              I don’t think Richard Ramirez ever felt bad about anything.

            • Uncle Creepy

              So you knew him? LOL

            • LSD Zombie

              Now you’re acting goofy because you know I’m right. I’ve read enough about psychopathic behavior to know that they are incapable of displaying any emotion. Richard Ramirez fits that description, Walter White does not.

            • Uncle Creepy

              No, I do not think you’re right. Walter White progressed in character to a truly despicable and evil person. No one starts out evil, but they can end up that way as evidenced by the series. Let’s just agree to disagree.

            • Sirand

              LSD is right. Walt never became pure evil. He never directly killed innocents. He’s much more complex than that.

            • Jinx

              Think I fall somewhere in between. That Walter White is one of the most complex creations in all of television, and that the audience can’t help but feel for the guy even when he’s at his worst, doesn’t make him any less evil or less of a monster.

            • Uncle Creepy

              Exactly.

            • Debi Moore

              Jane wasn’t an innocent? Sure, she used drugs, but that’s hardly reason enough to let her die. He crossed the line for me in that episode. But I wouldn’t call him a psychopath or any kind of “clinical” definition of evil like, say, Dexter was supposed to be. More like an evil mastermind and definitely complex.

            • LSD Zombie

              Walt never does anything without there being some purpose behind it. I think he felt that Jane would eventually drag Jesse down with her and that both of them could potentially die from an overdose.

            • Jinx

              That was hardly an act of altruism. Jane posed a threat to Walt, and to his relationship with Jesse (his partner and fellow cook, who he sorely needed). Walt let Jane die for Walt, not Jesse.

              Also, I’d like to take a moment to thank everyone here for chatting at length about Breaking Bad. Seriously, I mean that.

            • Matt Serafini

              Jane’s fate made Walt a hero in my mind.

              What a delightful scene that was.

            • Uncle Creepy

              I dunno man. Watching a chick die, poisoning a child to make a point, all pretty damned evil if you ask me.

            • Uncle Creepy

              I never said he was “completely evil” or “inherently evil” but he was evil nonetheless.

            • LSD Zombie

              Again, he doesn’t match the clinical description of such a person. It’s a complete misconception that someone can turn evil when they want to. It doesn’t work that way at all. Now if the show had begun with Walt pouring toxic chemicals down the throats of his students, you’d have a really solid case that’s he’s evil.

            • The Buz

              You may be getting “evil” and “sociopath” mixed up.

              Never the less, there isn’t a blanket definition for evil. It’s a frame of reference thing. For some it’s mass murder, for me it’s using the 15 items or less line when you clearly have 20 items. Stop arguing a relative term, stick with universal facts.

              For me, Walt was a bad guy. Villain, evil, muy mal. Whatever you want to call it. And I stand by what I said in that people who vehemently defend Walter creep me out. It doesn’t make logical sense to me.

              I don’t want to but can I assume that you disliked Skyler? At least up until this season?

            • Jinx

              People who defend Walt but hate Skylar completely fascinate me.

              And frighten me. A li’l.

              Can’t we all just agree that we’re glad Jesse made it? Gang? …anyone?

            • The Buz

              It’s an interesting comment on people’s own moral compass. A wife emotionally abused by a drug king pin lying husband is a BITCH WHORE NAGGING CUNT WHO SHOULD DIE. I’ve read those things on forums. Even after Walter White poisoned a fucking child.

            • LSD Zombie

              Sociopaths and Psychopaths happen to commit the most evil acts, that’s just how it goes. And I’m not saying what he did was justified, I’m just saying that clearly he wasn’t all the way bad. There was still some of the old Walt left, as evidenced by the last episode. As for Skyler, I didn’t hate her.

            • LSD Zombie

              Sure, good people can be tempted to do bad things when presented with the temptation of money, fame or even self-preservation. But that does not mean the person is inherently evil. Especially if that person displays love or sadness for another person.

            • The Buz

              ARE YOU GOD?! Seriously who died and deemed you fucking king of clinical definitions of things that aren’t real and are just said to describe someone that does things that a specific person doesn’t deem to be in line of sight of their moral compass.

              Seriously dude, stop trying. Your creepy defense of a complete and utter narcissist does nothing to help your case in anything you’re saying.

            • LSD Zombie

              Do you always fly off the handle when someone doesn’t agree with you? And thanks for the “creepy” label, you know so much about me.

      • conundrum

        Do you remember his reaction to the first time he kills somebody? The hand wringing, the self-loathing, the… I’m joking, he goes home and has sex with his wife with his murder boner. That’s in the first episode, BEFORE he gets engrossed in the criminal world.

        To be fair, I’m still catching up and haven’t seen everything, so these moments when he feels remorse instead of being frustrated and annoyed at the consequences of his own actions could be in an episode beyond what I have seen. But up until what I have seen, frustration at unintended results is the closest I have seen him come to “remorse” or “guilt.”

    • Rob

      Great episode guys. And I’m with Creepy on this; Sleepy Hollow is a fun show and worth checking out.

    • Fearless_Froude

      Finally, that fan mail that was cut out in one of the episode has been answered (sorta)…been driving me crazy what that was about.

    • pappy97

      They haven’t discussed Elysium, it should have been in this episode. Hope they do discuss/analyze it. I love it and think it’s great, but I’ve seen opinions vary wildly on this.

      • Uncle Creepy

        Elysium… Didnt really think you guys wanted to hear any discussion on this one. Noted.

        • GODFLESH69

          Guess you really did hate it if you didn’t think to bring it up!,no worries to each their own i personally dug it.

          • Uncle Creepy

            Didnt hate it at all. Just thought it was meh. All but completely forgot about it to be honest.

        • pappy97

          Thanks Uncle Creepy! Keep up the good work!