Dinner for Fiends: Bad Moon Rising

Kate Beckinsale in fetish wear drops from ceilings. Super-powered teens go all Columbine. Ghosts terrorize Harry Potter. Liam Neeson beats the crap out of wolves. Movie endings confound. Viewer mail confounds even more so. Plus, film snob douchbaggery, two-headed sharks, men on ledges, and much, much more. Yep. A new edition of DFF is being served.

Myself, Uncle Creepy, Matt Fini, Andrew Kasch, and The Buz return for a more than feature length installment of Dinner for Fiends covering all the new post-Devil Inside releases. We’ll discuss the greatness of Chronicle, the idiocy of Underworld: Awakening, the hits & misses of The Woman in Black, the pros and cons of Kill List, and a heated debate regarding the end of The Grey. Beware of spoilers, but you should know that by now. You really, really should.

Liam Neeson would like you to know you have 5 seconds to start listening to this new edition of Dinner for Fiends or he’s going to start beating the fuck out of you. You wouldn’t want to make Liam Neeson angry, would you?

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  • James Coker

    Vanvance1 I understand why you would pass on Japanese Horror, I did for a long time simply because I was fucking Tired of the stupid “long Black-Haired Ghost Girl” movies that seemed to be prevalent in J-Horror,(sorry Kasch) but then I discovered 80’s and early 90’s J-Horror and Takashi Miike 🙂
    VANVANCE1 Please check out BATTLE ROYALE, EVIL DEAD TRAP (its Argento meets Raimi with some Cronenberg thrown in there), NAKED BLOOD, AUDITION and ICHI THE KILLER. there worth your time

    and if you can actually track down GUZOO(1986) and BIOTHERAPY(1987) all the more power to you

    • Vanvance1

      I’ve seen and was entertained by Battle Royale.

      Based on your good taste in films I’ll try out the films you listed. Maybe I’ll be able to appreciate the Japanese for more than tempura and Godzilla.

  • theGoldenSimatar

    I was entertained by Underworld 4.

    I thought The Grey was brilliant; the ending for me really worked. I thought that Neeson vs Wolf would have been detrimental to the film as the film was so bleak and had gone to such a dark place, that any kind of ‘raise your hopes’ with a fist fight would have been too much. Ending the film with the cut to black for me was perfect and until the post-credit scene would leave the interpretation up to people. I read the post-credit scene that Neeson and the Wolf basically fought each other to death and are laying dying. Am I the only person who thought that?

    What about Steve Barton and Ben Lyons at the Movies? I’ll listen 🙂

    But was This Ain’t Jaws as good as This Ain’t Avatar? The 3D was surprisingly decent 😛

    • The Buz

      I haven’t seen This Ain’t Avatar. I’ll have to pick that one up. For research purposes of course.

      • theGoldenSimatar

        Yes….research of course…

  • James Coker

    british movies don’t count guys

    but my Favorite foreign horrors are

    French: High Tenstion,Inside,Grapes of Death and Baby Blood

    Japanese: Battle Royale, Evil Dead Trap, Naked Blood, Guzoo, BioTherapy, Mermaid in a Man Hole, Entrails of the Virgin, Entrails of a Beautiful Woman, Ichi the Killer, Audition and Attack of the Mushroom People

    Spanish: Let Sleeping Corpses Lie, Faceless,Santa Sangre REC, REC2, Day of the Beast, Pan’s Labrynth and Last Circus

    Italian: Zombie,City of the Living Dead, The Beyond, House by the Cemetery, New York Ripper, Cat in the Brain, Anthropophagus, Hell of the Living Dead, Suspiria, Inferno, Tenebre, Opera, Stage Fright, The Church, The Sect, Demons, Burial Ground,Nightmare City, Blood and Black Lace, kill Baby Kill, Bay of Blood and Cannibal Holocaust . . . yeah I fucking Love Italian Horror

  • LifeMi

    As far as favorite horror movies go, I’d go with the following in no particular order: Jaws, Night of The Living Dead, The Evil Dead, Phantasm, and An American Werewolf In London.

  • Chris6286

    Uncle Creepy might be the dumbest film reviewer on the Internet. All the movies he likes are low brow dumb horror films. And to criticize someone who uses appropriate film vocabulary when discussing film is the most childish and moronic thing I’ve every heard. Expand your horizons Creepy, or get out of the film game. Your makIng yourself sound more idiotic than you probably really are.

    • kiddcapone

      Hey Chris, why don’t you eat a dick.

      Obviously you’re new to the DFF show or never had any real close friends in your entire life. I’m willing to be it’s both.

      It’s the same same exact thing if one of your closest friends, one that you’ve grown up with and have known for 20 years, gets a job working at a bank and must wear a tie every day and up till now you’ve only seen them in sweatpants and a t-shirt. IT’S CALLED BUSTING BALLS. It’s what friends do.

      If you’re discussing a movie in some college film study group, then fine, use whatever appropriate text book terminology you feel like. But if you’re just shooting the shit with some close friends, don’t intentionally regurgitate 50 cent words that you just recently added into your vocabulary because that’s how Hollywood insider folks talk and your’e trying to fit in. It sounds ridiculous, especially to old friends who know that’s NOT you.

      Like Whodini said, BE YOURSELF….

      • Uncle Creepy

        Exactly. Andrew, Buz, Foy, and myself have known each other for years. We love each other deeply and we constantly break one anothers chops. Matt is the perfect addition to our formula. Being that we all do have such different opinions on movies … well that’s what keeps things (we hope) interesting and entertaining. I’ve said it 1,000 times, I am the proud representative of the lowest common denominator. I’m comfortable with that.

        That being said … Thanks for listening!

    • Cinemascribe

      You’re actually Armond White, aren’t you Chris6286?

    • The Buz

      Steve actually has fantastic taste in films and him and I agree almost 90% of the time. That being said, we do disagree on a lot of movies, and he has a very specific taste that doesn’t always jive with mine.

      To be honest, it’s only been in the past few DFFs where him and I have disagreed so vehemently. I still don’t know why I was being attacked for using film vocabulary, but that’s fine. I backed up my reasons for hating the movies he liked, and the reasons I liked something he didn’t. He did the same. Can’t really ask for more in a film discussion.

      • MonsterMash

        Well Said Buz

  • Genrewriter

    Good stuff, guys. Incidentally, the dog didn’t bother me at all. Fortunately, Foy has a strong enough voice that he drowns it out for the most part.

  • James Coker

    I want to know whats everyones favorite Foreign Horror films? come on Vanvance1,Terminal,Kidcappone,MonsterMash and LifeMi! share youre favorite French/Italian/Spanish/asian horror films?

    • kiddcapone

      Five off the top of my head…

      Ringu, Battle Royale, Verses, Inside, and REC.

    • LifeMi

      Here it goes James:

      French: haven’t seen much, so by default I’ll have to go with Haute Tension.

      Italian: Suspiria, Phenomena, Zombi 2

      Spanish: Rec, Rec 2

      Asian: Ring, Audition, Gojira

      Of course, I have to bring up Let The Right One In and the classic Hammer films of the ’50s and ’60s.

    • Doctor Gash

      I’d also like to throw some love to the French film Inside and would like to throw in I Saw the Devil and Frontier(s).

    • Vanvance1

      The French amazed me with ‘Inside’ and ‘Martyrs’.

      Italian, too many to name but most of those on your list make the cut. Emphasis on Fulci who was balls to the wall brilliant.

      Japanese, ummm… I really don’t like Japanese stories, art dirction, acting etc… So I’ll pass.

    • Cinemascribe

      Fulci’s City of the Living Dead is a long time favorite and always a treat..a dark,”mind-fucking in a way only Italian horror can accomplish” treat, but a treat nonetheless. Same goes for his uber creepy House by The Cemetery which takes the concept of the downbeat coda and really runs with it (plus it has a kid named Bob. Not “Bobby” or “Robbie”, just…”Bob”) . Mentioning “Zombie” would be too common place, so I….oh, fuck it already. I can’t even type to the period at the end of that sentence without laughing at myself. Yeah. Zombie . Still gets my vote as the best non-Romero zombie film out there. Flesh eating conquistadors, man. Does it get any better?

      I also enjoyed Psycho II director Richard Franklin’s 2003 low key psychological horror film Visitors out of Australia. Odd but really enjoyable flick..I kept expecting it to veer into complete self-parody and absurdity, but it never did. In fact, the film turned out to be more compelling than I had anticipated. Strong central performance by Radha Mitchell as a woman attempting a solitary sail around the world. Good play on the effect isolation has on the human mind when there’s already emotional turmoil present under the surface, cross pollinated with some bizarre supernatural elements.

      Big fan of Videodrome and Scanners (Canadian)-high marks for both.

      Going a bit more recent with it, Let the Right One In (Sweden) and The Host (the Korean monster movie) are among my favorite films of the past seven to eight years.

      I’m also a fan of Tetsuo:Iron Man and Tetsuo Body Hammer(both of which I qualify as sci-fi/cyberpunk horror. I haven’t had the opportunity to watch Tetsuo: The Bullet Man yet) and the uber creepy and mesmerizing Audition…all of which come to us courtesy of the good people of Japan.

      That’s all that’s coming to mind at four o’clock on the morning.

    • Genrewriter

      Most of the international stuff I’ve seen is out of Italy so my list would be Suspiria, The Beyond, Deep Red, Contamination is a guilty pleasure of mine as are Demons and Demons 2, Mario Bava’s Black Sunday is also a fantastic movie that any horror fan should track down.

      If we throw Canada into the mix, you can add Videodrome on there too.

  • nazo

    Great show, as always, although I skipped a bit because I didn’t want Chronicle spoiled.

    I agree that the Oscar noms are completely forgettable or movies I will never watch, with the possible exception of Hugo, which I have not seen yet. What does everybody think was the best (non horror) movie(s) of the year? My picks would be 13 Assassins and Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy. The fact that movie didn’t get nominated just baffles me. Also, speaking of Alfredsson, I was a little suprised no one mentioned Let The Right One In when talking about great foreign horror.

    • The Buz

      After you see Chronicle go back and listen to what we discuss. It’s one of the few movies I’ve really enjoyed dissecting with people and especially on this episode.

      And I haven’t seen Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy! I hear nothing but great things.

      Non horror for me would have to be Drive (which was my favorite movie of last year) ,Tin Tin, Hugo, Super, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part 2, I saw the Devil, 13 Assassins…gah that’s all I can pull from the top of my head. I unfortunately had a very busy travel heavy year with work and what have you and didn’t see a whole lot, thus why I didn’t do a top/bottom five of the year. I didn’t know how to fill it up. Now I’m catching up though, and have actually seen more movies in the past month and a half than I did all of last year. Which is great!

      And I still haven’t seen Let the Right One In. Because I’m a piece of shit that hasn’t made time for it yet. I will and then I’ll go around asking everyone if they’ve seen it and everyone will look at me funny then I’ll say “I JUST TRAVELED FROM THE PAST!” and run away whistling.

      • nazo

        That happens to me all the time. I’ll find an older movie that I missed or came out before I was watching movies, and I’ll spend the next week telling people who clearly don’t care how great Ghost Dog is. So, I highly recommend Let The Right One In. Be sure to watch the version with the theatrical subtitles when you finally see it, though. It does make a difference.

  • DeTuinman

    While I do like film’s with ambiguity…I have to agree with Steve on “Kill list”.
    I thought the first 40 minutes were good, yeah…you could sense which way it would go, the atmosphere was great, the acting, etc…had no problem with the accent, I dug the strangeness of it all.

    SHARK ALARM!!!!!!!!!

    When masked/Hooded, torch carrying mob’s of people show up show up near the end of any movie, then yeah…it’s “protagonist was fooled all the time!” time…ending in a sacrifice of some sort.


    As a fan of The Twilight zone series and strange, open ended flicks, I could see it coming.
    But if the accent is to thick for you than some clues will be lost.
    3 outa 5

  • BoyWonder513

    Ehem….”Ahh, I couldn’t listen to the show, the dog was annoying me!”
    That is all.

    • Foywonder

      The dog goes away after the first 20 minutes. It was annoying me too.

      • BoyWonder513

        I thought it was hilarious, I just felt the need to be the first to make that comment so that other people didn’t feel the need to do it. You need to bring the dog back as a special guest for the next Foycast.

        • Foywonder

          I swear that dog did not start barking until the very minute we began recording and I haven’t heard that dog barking anywhere in the neighborhood to that degree since. It’s like it was purposely screwing with me.

          • BoyWonder513

            It was probably just your neighbor fucking with you. You going to find out they don’t even have a dog.

  • nonserviam03

    I thought she was a clone, too…

    • Masked Slasher

      ^ YES!