Ghost Adventures - Zak, Nick, and Aaron Talk 100th Episode: The Exorcist House and More!
1949. A small boy underwent an exorcism to rid him of the demonic forces that were killing him. 1971. Author William Peter Blatty wrote The Exorcist based upon the case. 1973. William Friedkin shocked audiences everywhere with his big screen adaptation. Enter 2013...
For their milestone 100th episode the "Ghost Adventures" crew, Zak Bagans, Nick Groff, and Aaron Goodwin, head to St. Louis to investigate the house where the actual exorcism transpired decades ago. Having already seen a sneak preview of this episode, let me assure you of this... it's just as creepy as it sounds and stands as one of the absolute most frightening of the entire series.
To talk about this episode and more, the guys took to a conference call, and we have the highlights of what was said and what went down. Get comfortable, and check it out!
Zak Bagans: It’s been a long journey, and in that whole process of investigations, we have really matured as paranormal investigators because we have seen and felt and heard just how real and dangerous this field can be.
The 100th episode at the Exorcist house deals with something that we’ve all been through before, possessions. So this was about learning more about the experiences we went through. Experiences that Nick, Aaron and myself you know as brothers and as friends helped each other through. We were there for each other in those moments. And it’s something that the three of us will really only understand because we were there to feel it and to witness it.
To be at such an iconic home that housed the world’s most famous possession and exorcism and to learn the truth about it and to actually speak with an ancestor, a great niece of the chief exorcist, Father William Bowdern to interview her and hear her side of the story... To actually hear about her witnessing her uncle at a Christmas party and talking about the actual exorcism was a true honor for us. But to see her look inside our eyes and tell us “I will not go to that house for the interview. I will not even go down the street to do this interview.” That erased any skepticism that I had about if this house was haunted. I’m a firm believer that a haunting takes place where somebody dies a tragic death or a suicide. You know a supercharged emotional event attributed to a death that creates a portal, a doorway to a haunting and a residual energy that houses a nest for that entity. But I was unaware that an exorcism that housed supercharged emotional energy dealing with a spiritual event of Satan himself is just as powerful as the deaths or anything like that.
We went there to investigate a man who claims that he was recently attacked in the home in 2009. A man who’s credibility was really, really strong through the words of the great niece of Father William Bowdern. She validated his credibility. Ultimately this is what attracted us to the house and to investigate with the questions of did the demon reemerge itself from the exorcism in the 1940s, was him simply experiencing this psychic scars re-manifesting from the residual energy of the stone and wood surfaces of the home. That is truly what attracted us to the investigation.
From here, the conference line was open and the group took a series of questions. Read on for the transcript.
Question: I would like you guys to each touch on how this milestone of getting to 100 episodes has changed your life. Zak, you mentioned that you know you guys have really matured over the course of all these seasons. And then if you could also talk on the difference of intensity for each of you when you investigate area that had residual haunting, spirit haunting versus a demonic possession or reports of demon activities. Thanks.
Zak Bagans: Investigating up to 100 episodes has definitely matured us. It’s matured us on a level of knowledge within this paranormal field. And the way that we have learned and gained our knowledge is through our various investigations and the professionals in the - different professionals and scientists and demonologists and what not that we have interviewed.
Like on the 100th episode of the Exorcist, we brought in one of the most educated demonologists in the world, Dr. Bradshaw from Scotland. He and others like him are the people that we ultimately gain our knowledge from in this field. We will never be able - nobody, nobody on this planet will ever be able to answer the question what happens when you die? Nobody. But what we can answer are the questions that we have about how are we able to capture these voices, and how are we able to experience these compelling events and what not. You know these spirits are speaking.
They’re answering questions. We still don’t know how they’re able to do that. All we can do now is just capture this evidence. It just keeps getting more and more compelling it seems the longer and deeper we are in this field.
Nick Groff: Zak is absolutely right. Over the years a lot of learning just in general comes from experience with anything that you do. With Zak, Aaron and myself as paranormal investigators, we go to a new location week after week. We are learning so much about life, about death, about all the things that goes through everybody’s mind no matter what their background is.
That’s so compelling to us because we just feel like we skated on thin ice for so long on that other side. Like we’re almost in between 2 places, 2 dimensions with what we’re doing sometimes. To me that’s scary because most of the time, you don’t know who you’re communicating with or what dimension or what - you know it gets really. You can theorize and you can sit here all day and we can talk about different pathways you're faced with after you die.
What we’ve learned through capturing evidence with intelligent spirits, with residual energy, with demonic presences, even negative energies, is that it is the positive and the negative energies that we are communicating with at different locations. I think that’s what I’ve learned. The scariest thing for me is coming into contact with something that’s negative and actually have it attach itself to me. It can affect on your health, your physical well-being, and your mental state. Ut can linger with you for a long time unless you put yourself in that positive surrounding where you don’t let it win and destroy your life and everything around it. And the 3 of us have gone through that. We’re still going through it. It’s very scary. It’s dangerous. And we didn’t realize that when we first started, did we Zak?
Zak Bagans: No. and Nick made a good point. I'll tell you guys something personal. We are all dealing with attachments. I’m dealing with them right now, and I don’t know what they’re doing. I am seeking various people to help me with it. They’re very real, the things that they do in my home. The things that they do to people that I get close to.
Every girl that I ever tried to have a relationship will have an experience. I have a possessive female spirit. You know I was also told I have a demonic attachment. And they make me sick. They make me agitated. It’s a side that nobody sees. It’s something that Nick, Aaron, and I experience. Thankfully I can turn to these guys along with Bill and Jay and can talk about these things. It’s brought us closer together even though we’ll still have our stupid little friendly fights and stuff.
These 100 episodes have brought us closer together. We've been through all of this. We understand it. We are dealing with it now. Sometimes it’s great and sometimes it’s crazy. Going to the Exorcist house and seeing what can happen to a little boy in a worst case scenario, a diabolical possession, that’s when it gets bad. That’s when it goes from just having an attachment to having a full on diabolical possession where you’re not even in control of your own body anymore.
You know your body is not your body anymore. It’s the body of Satan. Even just saying that out loud in this hotel room scares me. It’s scary to know that I don’t know what else is listening to it around me. That’s how deep we are involved in these investigations, guys. This is why we get the help of the most educated demonologists in the world. We talk to the family members of the exorcists from the exorcism portrayed by the movie, the Exorcist.
This is the level that we’re at. While we were at that house, we communicated with something. We communicated with an entity. We shared that evidence with a priest, an exorcist, Father Jack Ashcraft who was supposed to join us on this investigation. On the way to the investigation with his brother, he had a medical emergency, a freak medical emergency in his car that he had to go from meeting us to go to the hospital.
During the filming of that episode, I also had a medical emergency happen that was just like his. The voices that came through actually have us asking ourselves, 'how far do we want to keep going with this? Do we really want to keep doing demonic investigations? What have we gotten ourselves into?' It’s crazy. But we’re involved in it and this is what we do.