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Tanit Phoenix on the Vamps of Lost Boys 3: The Thirst

Tanit Phoenix On the Vamps of Lost Boys 3: The ThirstIn case you’ve been wondering how watered down the vampires of Lost Boys 3: The Thirst might be given the popularity of Twilight and its ilk, recent comments by Tanit Phoenix, one of the film’s co-stars, should put your fears to rest.

In an interview with Moviehole, the gorgeous South African model turned actress had this to say: “What I found very interesting about the Lost Boys script was that it showcases vampires how they really are, blood-sucking and evil, which somewhat dances around the fact that ‘Twilight’ made their vampires seem beautiful, but they really are not.

As for working with Corey Feldman, who is reprising his role as vampire hunter Edgar Frog in the film, Phoenix opined, “Corey is very sweet. He takes his work seriously. But he is just a big kid!” When asked if maybe her character, Gwen Lieber, a wealthy vampire-romance novelist, ends up a little bruised and battered in her dealings with Frog, she laughed and said, “I wanted to play a bad girl, and I finally got my chance, [but] the most physical I got was getting into skimpy outfits.” That should make a lot of people happy!

For more on Tanit’s take on Lost Boys 3: The Thirst as well as her experiences with Luke Goss and Sean Bean in Death Race: Frankenstein Lives, be sure to hit up the above link for the entire interview.

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  • James Coker

    well come on FireRam Horror always goes through a “SOFT” Period so it’s going to happen again, The only thing i hope for is that the horror films that won’t be “Soft” will probrably go Unnoticed by “New” horror fans but to us old one it will a prestige underground…again like the early pre-Scream 90’s

  • James Coker

    Scary but Valid Point? about pre-Scream 90’s Horror films or that horror films are probrably going back to goreless bad scream like knockoffs again? Which one FireRam?

    • FireRam

      —————> “And Terminal I am DREADING the day all Horror goes back to goreless self-parody slasher films with bad tv actors in them….oh it’s coming”

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      • Terminal

        Most def FireRam. It’s all cyclical like fashion. Horror is big and gory, goes out of style for a while, disappears, comes back tame, and bursts with blood all over again in a new form.
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        • FireRam

          I have to give credit for that statement to James Coker Terminal. He stated that in an earlier comment,and I copied and pasted that in agreement to show that was the excerpt I was in agreement to. Just want to give the original commentator due credit for his statement.

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          • Terminal

            I are confused now.
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        • FireRam

          I must have put the reply on the wrong page. His comment is on the other page. I’m a fuck up.

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  • James Coker

    come on guys, don’t rub the atttention part in….But ya, that’s what I’m Basically saying about the 90’s…before scream, Horror movies were a unpopular but prestige underground, they were out of style but the horror films that were there were pretty good…Then Scream came….And Terminal I am DREADING the day all Horror goes back to goreless self-parody slasher films with bad tv actors in them….oh it’s coming

    • FireRam

      LOL. Just playing around!! All in good fun.
      You have a scary,but valid point there.

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  • James Coker

    did anybody noticed what i wrote about early 90’s horror films….I know I’m kinda being an attention whore here

    • Terminal

      James I agree with your assessment. Like horror always was and should be, it was reduced to being underground in the nineties. It was out of style and what was out there was more classy horror like Dust Devil, but there was that cycle again of the horror film where the genre transformed from gritty horror, to clever self parody slashers, back to gross gory messy films again. It’ll happen again very soon.
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      • FireRam

        Terminal,
        Thank you for noticing that James Coker wrote about 90’s horror,and replying to him,and satisfying his need for attention to his comment on this subject. I hope he feels better now.
        Sarcastically yours,
        FireRam

        LOL

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    • Floydian Trip

      I can’t find it.

      To Fireram, I enjoyed several of the 90’s movies you mentioned but I wonder how many DVD’s of the typical horror film in those days had the word “hip” quoted from a review and printed on the cover.

      Someone said horror movies weren’t popular in the 90’s? I think that’s when they started gaining popularity with the mainstream masses beginning with Scream and now I think there’s too many people who like horror and for all the wrong reasons.

      Also, is horror really cyclical or is it a product of its time. The Vietnam War and Kent State Massacre and the overall turbulent times of the late 60’s and 70’s are what inspired guys like Romero and Hooper. To me times are darker right now than they ever have been in my life and these torture films are just a product of the way the world is right now isn’t it?

      • Terminal

        I’d say FPP movies are a product of our time and reflective of our culture.
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      • FireRam

        To Floydian, I didn’t mention any 90’s movies. You might be referring to James Coker,look up a little,you’ll see,he wants to know if you read about them.
        Happy Memorial Day!!

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  • James Coker

    You know that’s actually a good point floyd…. Terminal if you loathe horror directors that just splash blood on screen then how can you like Fulci’s ZOMBIE and even get to watching Fulci’s other horror movies, As much as i Love Fulci his movies don’t have great characters or dialogue but as many italian horror directors go he does pack a wallop when it comes to atmosphere,Intense Gore, Nightmarish looking zombies and a great feeling of dread and upcoming doom
    And Also to Floyd and Terminal I know the 90’s was a bad time for horror movies but I always like to argue that before Scream came out, horror movies weren’t that popular BUT the ones that did came out Kicked Ass (although many of them are lost or forgotten) like Candyman, Bram Stoker’s Dracula, NightBreed, DemonKnight, the Tales from the Crypt TV series, Necronomicon Book of the Dead, TICKS, Night of the Scarecrow, Dead-Alive, HardWare, DustDevil, Castle Freak, NightoftheLivingDead 1990 Remake, Arachnophobia,The Resurrected, Tetsuo the Iron Man, SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, Dark Waters, In the Mouth of Madness….huff….huff… see so what i’m saying is that the EARLY 90’s had a number of good (but Completely Forgotten) horror films but then scream came along in 96 and ruined it…..you know come to think of it there were a few horror films that came out AFTER Scream that WERE NOT Scream-Like at All…The Night Flier, Event Horizon, Dusk Till Dawn, Deep Blue Sea, Sleepy Hollow, House on Haunted Hill Remake and Idol Hands

    • Terminal

      Well because Fulci’s films are entertaining, and creative, and actually creepy to some extent. And unlike Roth’s films, they continue to be relevant and influential in the changing face of horror. They’re not glorified retarded fan films like “Cabin Fever” or homophobic crap like “Hostel.” There’s skill and depth to them even at their cheesiest.
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      • RingoJ

        Exactly. Fulci understood the concept of atmosphere, and his movies were covered in it.

        Imagine what he could have done with a really big budget.

        • Terminal

          Fulci would have done better than most young filmmakers today with a bigger budget and more resources. So would Romero have. I’ll take weak Romero and Fulci over anything Roth or Zombie has done, anyday of the week.
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          • FireRam

            I’d rather get thrown in a pool of salt water and be forced to wrestle a shark MYSELF like the zombie in Fulcis movie versus watching wither of Zombies Halloweens or House of a whole lotta corpses. I left out Rejects cause I kind of liked that one.

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          • Terminal

            I’d rather chew glass and be kicked in the nuts with a spiked boot than watch Zombieweens or House of 1000 Retards ever again. I liked Devil’s Rejects as well.
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      • Cinemascribe

        Gotta chime in on this one. Not only do I agree with your assessment of Fulci, Terminal (Both Zombie and City of the living Dead hold honored status in my personal DVD collection), but I’m on the same page about Roth as well.

        Had I had access to the proper materials (flammable liquid, incendiary device) I’d have set fire to the theater where I saw Cabin Fever…and I saw it for free. I hated the unfunny dipshit deputy, the gore wasn’t nearly as impressive as I thought it would be, the story -what little there was- went nowhere and the only really sympathetic character was the fucking kid from Boy Meets world..and Roth pissed that away by having the kid start beating people with a stick. Then we had Pancakes Ninja Kid on top of all that. Exactly what conventions of the genre was Roth honoring with Pancakes Ninja Kid, anyway? Gotta say, despite having been partaking of a steady diet of these movies for over thirty years (many of which have been hardcore, underground cinema) , he completely lost me with that one.

        To me the nadir of the horror genre in the past decade was Roth’s Hostel. I never saw (nor do I intend to watch) part two. Hostel truly is by definition torture porn- the plot is a bare-bones peg to hang scenes of hack and slash on. That’s it. Brutal? Yes. Fun? Not at all.

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        • Terminal

          Thanks Cinemascribe. I’m glad someone agrees with me. When I saw the trailer to “Cabin Fever” I was fucking giddy. I was ready to be there on the first day, and when I was halfway through it I was prepared to kill someone brutally. I mean I became fucking psychotic. I’m exaggerating but I’m having fun leave me alone. No in all seriousness, it was a god fucking awful movie. What in god’s name was the point of the pancake kid? “I don’t know, it was just funny!” says a lot of people. But what purpose did it serve? “Cabin Fever” is the gimp of horror movies, and its sequel? Wow! Awful.

          “Hostel” is terrible, but I had an easier time swallowing it only because of its atmosphere. Otherwise I would have gladly made Roth swallow this. “Hostel 2″ is another piece of shite, a self-congratulatory misogynistic mess with god awful performances.

          But hey at least it showed what a bitch Roth was after he went on a tirade and took a sabbatical from making movies. That was a gift that kept on giving.
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  • Vanvance1

    I think Roth has an honest love and understanding of the genre. I find his movies to be well paced and chock full of entertainment value.

    Cabin Fever was a lot of fun. Hostel is poster child for the sub genre of ‘torture porn’ (since so many seem to believe said sub-genre exists) and his Thanksgiving short was so funny I almost peed myself (the ultimate measure of funny).

    My only disappointment is that he’s wasting time acting instead of making movies.

    A good example of a dull, flat, predictable and poor director is Tim Burton. I just suffered through Alice in Wonderland and it was ridiculously lousy. Generic imagery took the place of imagination. One giant computer generated crap.

    • Terminal

      Vavance, I think he’s wasting time both acting and directing. He has yet to make a watchable movie.

      And not to antagonize but I’m sick of reading this:
      “I think Roth has an honest love and understanding of the genre.”

      Adam Green has only one good movie under his belt but hey he loves the genre, Zombie can’t direct to save his life but hey he loves the genre.

      I’m a hardcore fanatic of horror all around, but that doesn’t mean I can direct an actual movie. I don’t care what type of lover Roth is of horror, his movies are god fucking awful.

      Talking about “Cabin Fever” with fans of the movie is just nonsensical babble. “Hehe, I liked the pancake kid,” “Hehe, the old man said nigger.” Roth revealed with his debut that he’s just a retard with a camera. And “Hostel” was a poster child for the dregs of filmmaking imitating Tarantino who is an imitator to the core.

      “Hostel” was a lame unfunny teen comedy matched with a painfully homophobic horror movie, while “Hostel 2″ was a “Last House” rip off laced with misogyny and even more homophobia.

      No, Roth is useless to the horror genre.
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      • Floydian Trip

        Roth was pretty good in IB which to me is the best thing QT has done yet and that’s saying alot considering how much I love Pulp Fiction, Resevoir Dogs and Jackie Brown.

        Roth DOES have a love and good understanding of the genre. I actually enjoy reading his interviews more than watching his movies because he absolutely knows what he’s talking about and in this day and age of poeple who talk about horror and how much they love it when it’s so fucking obvious they don’t have a single clue as to what they’re talking about, I appreciate that. He’s a fan. I’d much prefer him to have an influence on Hollywood than the Twilight machine that’s for sure but he isn’t influential at all and the world revolves around Twilight. Every vampire movie that comes out from now on is going to be compared to Twilight. Either they stress that it’s like Twilight or they stress that it isn’t anything like Twilight. Twilight is now an adjective. Eli Roth just seems like he’s having a good time.

        Now, if you want to talk about what a big pile of crap Cabin Fever 2 is then I’d be happy to pile on. I don’t think Ti West has an ounce of talent but I don’t think he has any kind of influence over anything either so he can make as many movies as he wants, I just won’t be watching any more of them.

        It’s like this Tanit Pheonix. I’ve never heard of her before. And I can’t imagine I would know her considering she’s in The Lost Boys 3. Is she some kind of an expert on vampires and the horror genre? She probably doesn’t know what the fuck she’s talking about but Dread Central writes an article about her like she’s the be all end all of deciding if a vampire is being portrayed in a good way. It reminds me of when that chick from Battlestar Galactica was interviewed about The Children of the Corn movie she was making. She was completely clueless.

        • Terminal

          I never once said or put in to doubt that Roth doesn’t have a love for the genre, but that means diddly squat when it comes to making a good horror movie. I have a genuine love for classic rock, but it doesn’t mean I can make a good rock album and it’s not an excuse for bad music, so his “love for the genre” is no excuse for the fact that his movies are god fucking awful brain dead derivative horse penis shite a hundred percent of the time.

          There’s not a single goddamn good thing about Roth, and I feel like Sutherland in Invasion of the Body Snatchers trying to snap people out of this mysterious funk that Roth has apparently put them in to.

          Roth may be having fun making these movies, but god, I don’t have fun watching them. I tend to become murderous.
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      • Vanvance1

        I have to disagree. Roth may be friends with Tarantino but so is Robert Rodriguez. Neither of them write nor direct like Tarantino (who I agree is a wannabe).

        I also have to ask: What is ‘homophobic’ about the Hostel movies? So far as I understand it ‘homophobia’ means fear of gays. This is a politically correct, manipulative liberal term coined by 2 percent of the population who use it to attack anyone who disagrees with their special interest agenda. They state that if you don’t like what they say or do you must be scared of them. This is both manipulative and ludicrous. It’s a bullshit word.

        To get back to Roth; his movies are fun. He’s not making a statement or exploring any complex social issues or themes. What he is doing is creating interesting on screen situations that consistently keep my attention and make me grin. This isn’t Tarantino-like pretentiousness, this is just good entertainment.

        • Terminal

          1. His movies are homophobic based on the fact that most of the villains are either repressed homosexuals, evil homosexuals, or lambasted for being homosexual. And no it’s not a PC term, it’s a true to life term that people scorn for reasons I’ve yet to understand.

          2. Fun and Roth is an oxymoron IMO. What the hell is so entertaining about these damn movies? Was it the milking in Cabin Fever? The pancake kid? the skin shaving? The old man saying nigger? The butt prank in Hostel? These are all moments from a twelve year olds movie script. Roth’s movies are not fun, IMO, they’re painful to sit through. Absolutely painful.

          And at least when Tarantino is being pretentious he presents a grain of talent, unlike Roth who just throws in whatever elements he thinks will work whether it’s sloppy or not.
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          • Vanvance1

            Sorry, but I don’t see any bashing or agenda in Roth’s movies.

            Mind you I’d enjoy them even more if he was doing the things you claim. Then he’d be bravely defying politically correct scripture.

            I can’t believe horror fans are bashing a director in part because he puts gore and brutality up on the screen. First off, compared to some French movies (Inside, Martyrs, Frontiers) the gore in Hostel and Cabin Fever is very tame. Secondly, good gore is FUN. When I want to imagine something I read a book. I’ll give Roth points for not falling for the bullshit theory that ‘quiet horror’ is more sophisticated and inherently better than showing the violence on screen.

            The violence I hate is the PG crap we’re fed all the time; bullets fly, knives stab and there is no blood and no consequences. That’s just dumb.

          • Terminal

            Re: Vanvance.

            1. How does bashing homosexuality make someone brave? Wow.
            2. I’m not bashing Roth for putting gore and brutality on screen, I’m bashing him because he’s a five year old with a camera.
            3. Sure CF and Hostel are tame compared to French horror, but those movies were–um–GOOD! They had stories and interesting characters, and wonderful plot twists, and genuinely creepy atmosphere. Roth? No.
            4. Gore and blood is great! When it serves an actual damn purpose to the story! Roth’s gore doesn’t. It’s shock value for the sake of shock value, it’s a film school moron trying to look cool for daddy Quentin. Look! A girl just got cut up by a psycho lesbian! Did I do good?
            5. I’m about both schools of thought. I believe horror can be scary if quiet, but it can also be scary if bloody as well. But when it serves an actual damn purpose!
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        • FireRam

          Kind of like the word “hater”. If you do not subscribe to what an individual is putting out there,or disagree with what you are given by them,all of a sudden since your opinion differs or you have a negative opinion you MUST be a “Hater”. I really get riled up (blood boils) when someone or a group calls someone a hater in those circumstances.

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          • Terminal

            Don’t be a hater FireRam. :-P
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          • FireRam

            Survey says: KILL TERMINAL.
            LOL…..(shakes head) I shoulda known. Sigh.

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          • Terminal

            My most hated internet terms:
            1. Hater
            2. Overrated
            3. Pwned
            4. Frak
            5. OMG

            But that’s just me IMO. LOL.
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          • Floydian Trip

            Frak comes from Battlestar Galactica before there was an internet dude.

          • Terminal

            I could give two shits if god said it before creating the universe through a fart cloud, it’s still over used and annoying.
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          • FireRam

            Then there’s “owned”. That one is silly as well.

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          • Terminal

            Oh man I could go on with terms that annoy the shit out of me.
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          • Vanvance1

            “Hater” is a good one.

            It goes along with people who tell you to be ‘open minded’. That means you should believe and accept whatever crap they tell you without judgment.

            Of course ‘open minded’ people are anything but when you disagree with their liberal opinions. Then they’re like members of an angry mob eager to burn the heretic.

          • Terminal

            Vanvance1 another term I hate is “Just shut your brain off.” I don’t want to shut my brain off! If I want to shut my brain off I’ll smash my head in to a brick wall! I come to be entertained, and shutting my brain off will not help even if I could!
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          • FireRam

            See now,that one I can get,and relate to when it comes to the movie industry (only). I work in the financial field.We’re talking loads of data,number crunching,ratios galore,earnings,and JUST a little bit of stress. Now add me studing for my insurance exam,so that I can branch out into that industry as well (increase personal earnings). So now I have a whole bunch of new shit to learn,and then utilize. With that said,I want to (at times) sit and watch a movie and SIMPLY BE ENTERTAINED. Not be critical.look for errors,or nit pick at the plot,etc. I just want to sit and relax and have no motivation to allocate any of my mind to picking the thing apart. Hope that makes sense.

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          • Floydian Trip

            It makes total sense. There are tons of movies that require all brain activity to cease for the duration in order to get any kind of enjoyment out of them. Most summer blockbusters for example. 2012 is the most recent one I can think of. That movie is completely asinine from beginning to end but the Earth has never been blown up like it before. It’s fun.

            At the same time people complain about movies that require and provoke thought just as much.

          • FireRam

            I was very much looking forward to “2012”. And,I was very much disappointed. The action was OVERDONE. Some things looked just TOO FAKE. That ruins the enjoyment for me. Like the scene where he was chasing the plane on foot after getting the map from the RV,and the flames were fast approaching from behind. I was like come on now, wtf. Too much (imo).

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          • Terminal

            I’m all for entertainment, but shutting your brain off sounds like an excuse to let bad movies squeeze by. Like Transformers 2, Jennifer’s Body, and Quarantine.
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          • Vanvance1

            I’m with you there. Some movies are so stupid and so calculated to appeal to the lowest common denominator that only those who don’t have two IQ points to rub together can enjoy them.

            Transformers 2 really is a perfect example.

          • Terminal

            Exactomundo Vanvance1.
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  • James Coker

    sooo who would be your most hated horror film director…Eli Roth? or Wes Craven? or someone else?

    • Terminal

      Most hated would be Roth followed by Zombie. Craven is too past his prime as a hack to be really hated by me, personally.
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  • James Coker

    by that rationel Terminal i take it you loathe Eli Roth???
    P.S. did you finally watch those lucio fulci classics??

    • Terminal

      James, in fact Eli Roth is the epitome of everything wrong about horror movies. He splashes gore, blood, and torture on-screen and hides the fact that there’s zero substance to his movies.

      And I’m getting to them within the next few days.
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      • LSD Zombie

        Please tell me you’ve seen Fulci’s Zombi and The Beyond before! If not, what the fuck are you waiting for?!

        • FireRam

          I myself just watched Fulcis “ZOMBI” for the first time about two weks ago. LOVE the wooden splinter in the eye scene!! Then,I immediately revisited “The Gates of Hell”!!

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          • LifeMi

            I honestly don’t care that much for Zombi. Granted, the splinter through the eye scene is great, as is the shark vs. zombie scene. Other than that, I really didn’t care that much for the film. Same goes for The Beyond. The tarantula scene and the finale is great but the rest is tedious and boring. Simply put, I’m not a Fulci fan.

          • FireRam

            I have not seen “The Beyond” yet either. However,due to mixed opinions,I am not in a hurry. I have gotton behind on Supernatural and Dexter,and have not watched alot of movies lately. Hell, I have not even gotten through the latest A.D Horrorfest yet. I’ll see it, but it will be whenever.

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        • Terminal

          LSD Zombie, I’ve seen Zombi a few times and it’s really quite good, but I’m getting to The Beyond in a few days for my site’s review fest, so I’ll let you know when I’ve seen it. STOP PRESSURING ME!
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      • Floydian Trip

        Eli Roth might not be the greatest filmmaker around but I wouldn’t say he’s what’s wrong with the genre. Cabin Fever and House of 1,000 Corpses gave me hope after 10 years of movies like Scream and The Faculty. It was Cabin Fever, House and the TCM remake that brought gore back to horror.

        I did like Hostel quite a bit when it first came out but honestly after seeing what the French are capable of I don’t think it’s as good as I used to but it’s still enjoyable.

        • Terminal

          “Cabin Fever” was a junky messy piece of crap that was attempting to mimic Tarantino only if a mentally retarded gimp had directed it, House of 1000 Corpses was ALSO Tarantino-lite but a little easier on the stomach even if it was utter shite, and TCM Remake was pure and total shit, period. The very fact people continue paying respect to that piece of tripe makes me sick to my stomach.
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          • Floydian Trip

            I’m not saying there’s something wrong with someone not liking Roth but to say that he’s what’s wrong with the genre is a slight over exaggeration to say the least. He didn’t have anything to do with 90’s horror films for the most part being targeted at the 15 year old demographic and he didn’t have anything to do with popularizing the remake either. Nor has Zombie for that matter. They were so weak in the 90’s that I completely stopped watching them for about 2 years.

            He’s doing his own thing. He’s got relatively original ideas and he’s getting them released in the theatre which is alot better than most horror directors these days. And again, I’m not taking a difference with you not liking him at all it’s just making these guys out to be a scourge on the genre is crazy when there are so many bigger and more complex issues that began a decade and a half before they got involved.

          • Terminal

            Yeah no, I’m firm in my belief that Roth is the epitome of what’s wrong with the horror genre.

            He has that Final Destination mentality. Throw blood, guts, and gore at the screen and hope people don’t realize that the movies have zero story, characters or actual relevance, lather rinse and repeat.

            Zombie is the same. As is Adam Green to an extent.

            So yeah in my opinion, he, Zombie, Platinum Dunes, Wes Craven, Taurus Entertainment? All scourges of the horror genre.

            I expect a lot of “You’re nuts!” responses, but oh well.
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          • Floydian Trip

            Wes Craven I agree with. In fact, I’m quite sure that if someone did some research and wanted to seriously figure out what happened that he would be a big part of the problem. I pretty much blame it on him. He’s at least responsible for the 90’s.

            But it’s not like throwing blood and guts at the camera and nothing more is something new. Aside from gore what other reason is there to watch a Fulci movie? Certainly not for plot, characters or dialogue. He’s not called the godfather of gore for nothing.

          • Terminal

            True but he has skill, creativity, and atmosphere, and his movies are also somewhat creepy. Roth on the other hand? Nah.
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          • LifeMi

            Roth is highly overrated, but he’s FAR from the worst. I’ll take him anyday over Platinum Dunes or Taurus. At the very least, he tries to make a movie. You forgot to add Screen Gems and their PG-13 slasher wannabes.

          • Terminal

            Good point about the latter LifeMi, but I’m still on about Roth, what can I say? I still remember the crushing ninety minutes in the theater watching Cabin Fever after being so excited to watch it.
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          • LifeMi

            I liked Cabin Fever. No, it wasn’t as good as Evil Dead but it was a good movie. I didn’t care much for Hostel, though. Given his overexposure, I can see why some hate him. I’m in the middle on this argument. He’s not the second coming of christ, but he’s not damien either.

          • Terminal

            Well Damien dies at the end of the Omen trilogy, so lets hope Roth’s career suffers the same fate. At risk of sounding like an elitist snob I don’t get what there is to like about Cabin Fever. It’s nothing but a pastiche of Roth’s favorite scenes from horror movies thrown together in to a bastard Frankenstein child. It’s a shitty ass movie. God awful. I just don’t know what value is serves.

            It’s pretty goddamn pathetic when the best thing he’s done is a five minute fake trailer for a fake horror movie. I hope to god he never makes a feature length version of “Thanksgiving.”

            And the comparisons to Evil Dead are just as mind blowing as Lindsay Lohan calling Paris Hilton a modern Marilyn Monroe. I can do nothing but gaze wide eyed and nod silently at that declaration.
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          • LifeMi

            It’s not a great movie, but for what it was I thought it was a good debut.

  • Terminal

    You can splatter all the blood and guts on the screen as you want, it doesn’t mean the movie will be any good.
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  • RingoJ

    I keep reading her name as Taint.

    • FireRam

      You’re not the only one. I watched a interview with her recently and that’s exactly how she was addressed…..and she did NOT like it lol.

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      • Terminal

        Imagine being named “Feck” or “Cont.” Sheesh.
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