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Morgan Elektra
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:45 pm  Reply with quote
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I now have a seriously huge crush on the actress who plays Ballard's neighbor.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:45 pm  Reply with quote



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Morgan Elektra wrote:
I now have a seriously huge crush on the actress who plays Ballard's neighbor.


As do I.

I seriously heart Miracle Laurie. Her husband's a lucky bastard.




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Floydian Trip
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 10:05 pm  Reply with quote



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Is this show anywhere near as good as Firefly? After much debate with myself I have decided that Firefly and not Battlestar Galactica is the greatest TV show ever made.
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Floydian Trip wrote:
After much debate with myself I have decided that Firefly and not Battlestar Galactica is the greatest TV show ever made.


Whole-heartedly agree. Dollhouse is no Firefly, but it's getting good now (7 eps in).
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 3:26 am  Reply with quote
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FilmCritic3000 wrote:
Morgan Elektra wrote:
I now have a seriously huge crush on the actress who plays Ballard's neighbor.


As do I.

I seriously heart Miracle Laurie. Her husband's a lucky bastard.





Husband shmusband. She will be mine. Wink

PS: Dollhouse is definitely not as good as Firefly, but I'm liking it. Tahmoh is doing a good job of giving the show an anchor.
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I'm kind of glad that this show isn't doing so well...So my fanboy obligation to Joss Whedon means I won't have to watch it much longer. This show is dull.
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http://www.airlockalpha.com/news426236.html

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Fox Leaning Toward 'Dollhouse' Renewal
But news not so good for 'Sarah Connor'

By MICHAEL HINMAN
Apr-05-2009
Source: Airlock Alpha

The Fox network is just a step away from shaking up its Friday lineup for the 2009-10 season, canning one show and considering a move to a new night for a second.

Let's hit the good news first. Airlock Alpha has learned that Fox is looking to give its struggling "Dollhouse" a second season, to see if it can grow some legs on a new night. Fox had originally intended "Dollhouse" to air Mondays with "24," but Fox instead decided to move "House" to that spot to replace "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles," and to create sort of a genre theme night on Fridays.

The audience for "Dollhouse" are not exactly where Fox had hoped they would be, however, critical reaction to later episodes following its February premiere has grown more positive toward the series as it has had the chance to flesh itself out. Showrunner Joss Whedon had said ahead of its premiere that he had gone back to retool certain aspects of the show, including using a new premiere episode than what was originally planned, eventually canning what would have been the premiere.

The move seems to be an easy one for Fox. While the audience hasn't been as large as expected, it has instead remained stable. It's not a number that Fox uses, but "Dollhouse" carries a BlipNetwork Stability Index Rating of 92.0, better than every other network genre show currently on television outside of "Reaper" on The CW, which has a 94.7. A Stability Index Rating is the comparison of the show's highest overnight rating and its average overnight rating to see how much of its overall audience a show has retained.

Other factors in favor of the show continuing is that it's not as expensive as other Fox shows. Much of its upfront costs, including the construction of the elaborate set that is the dollhouse itself, were covered by funds that normally would've paid for a pilot (no pilot was made for "Dollhouse"). Also, while Whedon's Mutant Enemy Productions and star Eliza Dushku's Boston Diva Productions are tied to the series, 20th Century Fox Television is still the primary production company involved, which means its licensing fee is not as steep as it would be if the show was produced by another studio.

That, along with ratings, is one of the aspects killing "Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles." That show is set to end its second season April 10 after a 22-episode run, but its sophomore season has been nothing but a complete struggle.

After a so-so debut on Mondays and never finding its grip after that with audiences, Fox teetered on canceling the show until surprisingly deciding to give it a full-season pickup and moving it to Fridays as a lead-in to "Dollhouse." Rumors were that Warner Bros. Television, which produces the show, slashed its licensing fee to prompt a pickup as a way to help it promote its upcoming "Terminator: Salvation," which premieres May 21.

Once "Salvation" premieres, it seems Warner Bros. will have little use to keep "Sarah Connor" on the air, and likely will not continue to provide a licensing fee discount for a third season. That almost assuredly will allow Fox to make the move it normally would've done before New Year's, and that's cancel the show.

Last year, "Sarah Connor" had the worst Stability Index Rating of all network genre shows, mostly from its inflated series premiere following the National Football League playoffs. This year, it's Stability Index Rating is stronger, but out of 14 network genre show tracked by Airlock Alpha this season, "Sarah Connor" is ranked 13th. Only "Life On Mars" had a worse Stability Index Rating, mostly from its freefall following its move from Thursdays against "Eleventh Hour" to Wednesdays following "Lost."

Of course, none of this has been confirmed by Fox, so it should be treated as any rumor would, meaning information can change, or could even be wrong.

"Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles" airs Fridays at 8 p.m. ET on Fox. "Dollhouse" airs Fridays at 9 p.m. ET on Fox.

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Floydian Trip
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That's a shame about Terminator. I was just going to wait until the season ended and buy it so I could watch it at once. Poor Summer Glau.
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http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b117929_dollhouse_heres_deal_on_season_finale.html

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Will Fox Air Dollhouse's Final Episode or Not?

Today 1:31 PM PDT by Jennifer Godwin

Fox will not be airing the "13th episode" of Dollhouse, as tweeted by @drhorrible and @feliciaday. However, there appears to be some debate about what qualifies as a 13th episode and what qualifies as a season finale. Here's what we've sorted out about the end of Dollhouse...

Brace yourself, guys, because there's going to be math in this story.

Fox the television network ordered 13 episodes of Dollhouse. As everybody knows, they scrapped the original pilot, "Echo." So that is 13 less one, which brings us down to 12. The 12th and final episode that Fox the television network ordered and paid for and will air is called "Omega" and was written and directed by Tim Minear (who has told us he "can't wait" for us to see it). Focused on the Alpha storyline, sources say that "Omega" apparently "closes some doors and opens other ones," and was always intended to be and serves effectively as the season one finale.

Now, let's go back to the equation, and add in a episode called "Epitaph One." "Echo" the original pilot + 12 episodes through "Omega" + "Epitaph One" brings us to a total of 14 episodes.

The 14th episode, "Epitaph One," was produced and paid for by Fox the television studio. It was not ever ordered/requested/paid for by Fox the television network, and Fox the television network will not be airing "Epitaph One." Working on getting you more details about "Epitaph One," but it's said to be more of a "standalone" episode.

So, to summarize, Fox the television studio made 14 episodes of Dollhouse, and Fox the television studio is airing 12 of them, and paid for the 13 that they originally ordered.

A last, and very important, note: According to sources on the network side, them not picking up and airing "Epitaph One" has no bearing whatsoever on whether or not they pick up the series for a second season, a situation which, I'm told, is "100 percent in the decision phase." You can obviously believe them or not as you choose, but I take them at their word. I may be a sucker like that.

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"Dollhouse" writer/producer Tim Minear clears up the confusion.

http://whedonesque.com/comments/19822#304585

"Okay. So maybe I can help clarify this somewhat. Because we scrapped the original pilot -- and in fact cannibalized some of its parts for other eps -- we really ended up with 12 episodes. But the studio makes DVD and other deals based on the original 13 number. So we created a standalone kind of coda episode. Which is the mythical new episode 13. The network had already paid for 13 episodes, and this included the one they agreed to let us scrap for parts. It does not include the one we made to bring the number back up to 13 for the studio side and its obligations. We always knew it would be for the DVD for sure, but we also think Fox should air it because itís awesome."
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I hope it gets picked up, seeing Tahmoe being somewhat of an asshole on TV has been awesome. Not to mention Whedon knows that females watch his shows and flaunts the male eyecandy perhaps more than the female.
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Didn't See It Coming
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I take it back...Last night's ep was the best yet.
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Didn't See It Coming wrote:
I take it back...Last night's ep was the best yet.


Indeed it was.

The plot thickens...and I'm really loving this show.

I think Echo will still harbor a connection to her original handler.

And of course, the spy is still in the Dollhouse. Of that I've no doubt.

Poor Ballard. He finally finds someone he can connect to and it's all a lie, but he has to keep up the illusion.

What a switch re: Adelle using Victor for her own personal romps. I had the initial thought that perhaps she knew Victor before he joined the Dollhouse, i.e. she brought him in, now regrets that, and was trying to recapture what they once had, albeit for a moment or three. Maybe that's still a cogent thought.

I did like Topher's line when the other tech said, "Shouldn't we help her?" and he replied, "I programmed her with kung fu. It's your turn to help." I'm paraphrasing but it was funny.
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The show is definitely picking up, very very good stuff. And Dushku in that leather outfit wasn't disappointing either...
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I just wait for the full seasons to come out on DVD before I watch a show these days. I wonder how many other people do that nd how much it effects the ratings.
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