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birdie
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:42 pm  Reply with quote



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it's looking much more pure horror oriented than Season 1.


I think that's the root of my problems with season 1. Most of the stories were competently written and acted, they just weren't scary or shocking.
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sonny gaunt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:25 pm  Reply with quote



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If horror is needed than re-finance with someone other than GARRIS at the helm. A HACK IN A BUSINESS OF ILLUSION.
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Legba
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:43 pm  Reply with quote



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Top Five:

Deer Woman
Sick Girl
Cigarette Burns
Pick Me Up
Fair Haired Child

I haven't seen Imprint, but the rest were pretty non-descript, with a second viewing of Dance Of The Dead being less favorable than my intial liking.
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sonny gaunt
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:44 pm  Reply with quote



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Keep viewing and see how shallow and over controlled by GARRIS they were.
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Legba
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:08 pm  Reply with quote



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I enjoyed the ones I mentioned (more than I thought I would). Of course they're not breaking any ground for orginality or thought provoking commentary, but were mildly successful attempts at an entertaining hour of genre programming. DEER WOMAN and SICK GIRL are a total hoot. Very Happy
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birdie
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:11 pm  Reply with quote



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sonny gaunt wrote:
Keep viewing and see how shallow and over controlled by GARRIS they were.


Amen. I really fear that the show will never amount to much with a self-refential hack at the helm who thinks that pyschological thrillers, The Twilight Zone and watered down King adaptions are the key to successful horror. I bet Garris went crying to mummy when he saw Imprint.
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Miss Wormwood
PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:30 pm  Reply with quote



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I watched Homecoming last night and I hated it so much I need to purge myself of it. Hopefully it won't be so vile coming up as it was going down.

I'm fairly neutral about the Bush administration and the war. A big segment of the media seems to have it in for both but I try to take the news with a mountain of salt. I'm taking a wait-and-see attitude about the current political situation, because I don't think the public will know the real story about any hot-button topic for decades, when nobody cares enough anymore to have a stake in manipulating what we believe. What we mostly get in the news now is a lot of speculation, bias (which is not a matter of liberal or conservative, they both indulge equally), and censorship--what classifies as "news" is decided by the news providers who are human and have prejudices, preferences, opinions and agendas just like everyone else.

So that's the context in which I watched Homecoming. I'm not one of the choir so Dante's preaching to me didn't push my happy buttons. The movie had a sparse plot and functioned primarily as a liberal revenge fantasy. I did find it amusing how it romanticized Cindy Sheehan--her alter-ego here is much better looking, more human and sympathetic than the real Sheehan (who I initially sympathized with but who loses credibility as a grieving mother the more she morphs into a partisan demagogue--if the real Sheehan were anything like her onscreen counterpart the anti-war movement would have a much better spokesperson.)

It's all well and good to have a liberal revenge fantasy movie, even if it doesn't appeal to me personally. What disgusted me so much was that Dante uses dead soldiers as props to push his own agenda. It's fitting that they're zombies because they exist solely to do his bidding (in one scene a zombie wakes from the dead to go vote, then drops really dead once the ballot's cast). The whole movie's one scene after another of this type of ham-fisted haranguing. That might just make for a clumsy, not very good movie, but here his zombies are representations of real human beings who haven't been dead for very long. The wounds are still fresh. I'm sure Dante believes in his message, but I found pimping the already abused bodies of dead soldiers to be utterly repulsive.
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birdie
PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:51 pm  Reply with quote



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According to the DVD the episode had completed production when Sheehan went public, and it was a big co-incidence.

Homecoming sucked ass, and I'm left of Fidel Castro...
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filmcans
PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:17 pm  Reply with quote



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Most episodes, even the best ones, had a made-for-cable feel, and although I realize it was made-for-cable, that's not a compliment, suffering from Movie-Of-The-Week acting, pedestrian scripts, late-night cable nudity, and cheeseball synth scores. The title of the show alone denotes that you will be watching mini-masterpieces, but overall, the show was just "okay".

"Cigarette Burns" came the closest to being a masterpiece, I thought, but I missed "Sick Girl" and the crazy looking William Malone installment. I like the fact that they're releasing these individually so I can pick up what I want for dirt cheap.
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HorrorLibraryNet
PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:07 am  Reply with quote



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I'll have to say "Incident" and "Imprint" were my two favorites...

Miike didn't disappoint at all! Although, I really don't see why Showtime "banned" this one. I mean it was over-the-top...but certainly not too extreme to put on a pay cable network.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:37 am  Reply with quote



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Wow...just saw "IMPRINT"...Miike does it again! "Jenifer" wasn't too bad either.
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Splatman
PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:13 pm  Reply with quote
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I have only seen the ones on dvd, having bought them sight unseen. I must say that I think that my purchasing of these is at an end. "Cigarette Burns" is my favorite, followed by "Deer Woman" and "Incident..." I did not care much for "Chocolate" and hated "Witch House", "Sick Girl", and "Homecoming".
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Caterpillar
PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:25 am  Reply with quote



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I cannot believe we STILL don't have a complete list of all 13 directors for season 2!
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WashingtonChainsawDebacle
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:58 am  Reply with quote



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i guess "Homecoming" would be alright for someone who doesn't mind the director of "Gremlins" talking down to them.

i listened to the screenwriter's commentary track. He said that he and Dante pasted the movie together from news/blog articles they sent each other. That's like someone saying they wrote a comedy based on the hi-larious e-mails forwarded to them by their wacky aunt.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 4:54 pm  Reply with quote



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OK, now that the last 3 have been revealed, we got all 13 directors:

http://www.dreadcentral.com/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=291

I echo what Johnny says about the addition of these guys being underwhelming and disappointing. I don't even mind Peter Medak. THE CHANGELING is a classic I'll try my best to forgive him the past 26 years of unremarkable TV and video work and hope for the best. Rob Schmidt ... Well, WRONG TURN was better than it had any right to be but he's hardly a master of anything. But who knows, maybe he can deliver something good or even great now that he'll hopefully be free to work without WB pretty boys and girls.

But Norio Tsuruta? This is where I had to do a double take. Yeah, I really want to see an English language episode performed by a Japanese cast who don't speak the language and directed by the terrible hack who pissed in my face with RING 0 and PREMONITION. This will be just great. Those two flicks sucked so hard I'm convinced they still have slices of my beefjeky asshole stuffed into their cheeks. Fuck this guy. I'm sure they could have gotten someone better. Hell, if you need to go for one of the J-Horror theater guys hire INFECTION's Masayuki Ochiai. Other than PREMONITION and Shimizu's REINCARNATION that one was a minor masterpiece. Or ask Tsukamoto who has repeatedly expressed interest in directing an American film. Or Sion Sono who already directed his film HAZARD in the US. Try to pry Higuchinsky away from his music clips to do an episode. Or prove you have real guts and get RED ROOM's Daisuke Yamanouchi or THE SNUFF REELS' Takechi Anaru. Those last two couldn't be hard to hire considering they're shooting low budget fake-snuff porn for a living. There's plenty more but they'd had to get Tsurata because he's easy to get ahold off through Taka Ichise. Front runner for worst episode of season 2 right there. The sound you hear is Dante (Joe not Alighieri) and Argento breathing a sigh of relief.
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