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The Buz
PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:23 pm  Reply with quote
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I saw them age. Don't know what to tell you Creepy.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:20 am  Reply with quote
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Ultimo Franco wrote:
What would you have had them do instead, Creepy?

Use latex age makeup? That would look terrible on actors who are so obviously young. It would look like a bunch of creepy Norbits running around searching for the killer. Should they have cast different actors to play them older? Maybe if the film was directed by Luis Bu˝uel.

They did the best they could. They powdered the actors' hair and darkened the bags under their eyes a bit. Anything more than they did would have looked distracting. "Look, you can see the bald-wig on Jake's head!"

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I would have had them do at least something to make me think they aged. At the very least their hairstyles should have changed to denote some time passing, especially decades.

I don't know, maybe the screen I saw it on was too dark. I saw NO greying whatsoever. Yeah, there were dark circles under their eyes, but that hardly spells aging to me. I know 20 year olds with them.

I guess people see what they want to see. Again, I love Fincher movies. Most of them anyways, and I am not saying this is a bad movie. But brilliant? Amazing? Epic? Masterpiece? Sorry man, other than the first hour I just don't see it. As time went on I just became less and less interested, until Fincher won me back with his usual pizazz, IE: the scene in the movie guys house.

And again, for the character of Mike Mageau at the end they should have hired an actor that was more the persons age. In real life, Mike Mageau would have been in his early forties. 41 to be exact. Does Phin from Stay Alive really look 41 to anyone? He's about ten years too young, and while this may seem like nitpicking, it really took me out of the experience.

Still, people who love it will continue to love it no matter what, and they rightfully should. Just offering my two cents.
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Ultimo Franco
PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:12 am  Reply with quote



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I think it's the LA CONFIDENTIAL of serial killer movies. It's great filmmaking. It's the kind of film that Sidney Lumet and William Friedkin used to make. ZODIAC reminded me of great movies like PRINCE OF THE CITY and CRUISING. Bold, dark cop films full of amazingly authentic details. I'd include the recent Korean film MEMORIES OF MURDER on that list, too.

ZODIAC shares a lot in common with James Ellroy's towering crime novel THE BIG NOWHERE. Both stories are about the psychological toll the killer leaves on the people hunting him. In Ellroy's novel, the killer is known as The Wolverine Murderer. He tears his victims apart and chomps on them with his teeth. The bulk of the book, however, is devoted to three different protagonists searching for the killer. Each is touched by him in a different way, and each of them ends up sacrificing something along the way.

Robert Downey Jr. is simply fantastic in the movie. The entire cast is perfect. I think Jake G was my favorite, though. I just loved that character. I loved how quietly obsessed he was at first, and how he became much more active as the case grew colder.

This is my favorite Fincher film, by far.

It's the kind of film Brian DePalma once seemed capable of making. An epic serial killer film, played dead serious. I'd put this movie up there with Richard Fleisher's true-crime classic THE BOSTON STRANGLER. Both films are perfect examples of the true-crime police procedural genre. I love this genre. I'm a huge fan of procedurals like Michael Connolly's Harry Bosch books. ZODIAC follows realistic cops and reporters, doing their fascinating jobs, while a maniac taunts them... now that's entertainment!

Those who are on the fence about this one, just give it time. A film this rich in detail is going to pay off more and more upon future viewings.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:22 pm  Reply with quote
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Too bad Wild Hogs is beating this at the box office Sad
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You know what the most fucked up thing is?

That Creepy can recall a character from Stay Alive. Laughing
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Atomic_Ilk wrote:
Too bad Wild Hogs is beating this at the box office Sad


Now that's just depressing.
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Sirand wrote:
Atomic_Ilk wrote:
Too bad Wild Hogs is beating this at the box office Sad


Now that's just depressing.


Every showing of it has been fucking packed. And Zodiac only has had like 10 people. Indeed quite depressing.
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Atomic_Ilk wrote:
Sirand wrote:
Atomic_Ilk wrote:
Too bad Wild Hogs is beating this at the box office Sad


Now that's just depressing.


Every showing of it has been fucking packed. And Zodiac only has had like 10 people. Indeed quite depressing.


People are fucking retarded.

It's the golden rule.
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Sirand
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Ghost Rider has been number one for two weeks and Norbit is a mega-smash hit. Nuff said.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:23 am  Reply with quote
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Fucking people.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:23 pm  Reply with quote
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Uncle Creepy wrote:
And please don't even get me started on the inconsistencies which brought me more than out of the film on several occasions, such as the movie's timeline spanning from 1967 to 1991, YET NO ONE AGED. Not a single grey hair! Hell, three decades were explored and no one even changed their haircuts!




Jim noticed this too.....I didn't really catch onto it until after he mentioned it to me.
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Good to see I am not nuts. Thanks Sammy.

As for me recalling a character from Stay Alive, that film has scawwed my soul and will foweva make my bwain huwt.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:05 pm  Reply with quote
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Here's another thought to start debate amongst the boardies:

Can we really consider 'Zodiac' to be a horror flim? I mean, I definitely consider 'Se7en' to be horror, but 'Zodiac' seems more like a police-thriller than a horror movie. IMO, just because a movie depicts a murder or two on screen doesn't necessarily mean it belongs in the genre. If that were the case, just about every movie on the Lifetime Channel would merit serious consideration. Laughing

Whaddya think?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:41 pm  Reply with quote
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True crime is a part of the horror genre, and Zodiac most definately qualifies.
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Ultimo Franco
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Considering that films like THE BOSTON STRANGLER, HELTER SKELTER, 10 RILLINGTON PLACE, and THE TOWN THE DREADED SUNDOWN are included in the genre, I'd say ZODIAC fits perfectly. It's one of the best cops-hunt-for-a-serial-killer film I've ever seen.

ZODIAC is to serial killer films what GOODFELLAS is to gangster movies.
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