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The Woman In Black
PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:39 pm  Reply with quote
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Now I'm really curious to see how I'm going to feel about this film. Both Nomad and Staci Wilson took similar approaches to their reviews whereas just about everyone else seems to be falling over themselves in an effort to see who can praise Fincher the most. Words like "epic" and "masterpiece" are being thrown around like nobody's business. I've certainly liked the guy in the past (Se7en, Alien 3, and Fight Club of course), but he's also let me down in a major way (Panic Room), so I'm keeping an open mind and we'll see where the chips have fallen by 10:00 tonight.
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Staci's cool, but I don't share her tastes. I recall talking to her after THE HITCHER remake. She liked it. `Nuff said.
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She also liked the Black Christmas remake.

Not to bring her down, cause I love her to death, but her tastes couldn't be more different from mine.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:00 pm  Reply with quote
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Zodiac is a near masterpiece. Panic Room I agree as being not great, however this is Fincher at the top of his game. It really is a great film. I still can't stop researching The Zodiac either.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:06 pm  Reply with quote
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Meanwhile, somewhere in Sometown, USA, the real Zodiac purchases an IMAX ticket. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:03 am  Reply with quote
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Doubtful. The one person who I suspected it to be died back in 1992. However there are tons of other suspects out there.
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Yes, that rave for Hannibal Rising continues to boggle my mind. Razz
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Atomic_Ilk wrote:
Doubtful. The one person who I suspected it to be died back in 1992. However there are tons of other suspects out there.


Exactly. It's easy to assume that he's dead by now...but he really might still be alive.

No one knows. Laughing
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It's gotten so that Nomad's reviews make me excited or uninterested in films...If it's a bad review, I can't wait to see it...If it's a good review, I skip it. Hey, whatever works right?

And Panic Room was a good film...
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My two cents...

I LOVE Fincher. Alien 3, Fight Club, and Seven, are among my favorite films.

I sat down and watched Zodiac last night.

The first hour was electric. I was geared to rebuke Nomad's review. Yet by the time the film ended I was inclined to agree.

Mind you I do NOT agree with his knife rating, for me it was a solid three and not a two. If only because of the stellar acting and Fincher's keen directorial eye.

The last two hours of the film was made up of long stretches of nothingness bookended by great scenes every now and again.

It was like boring boring boring, WOW! Boring boring boring, WOW! Boring boring boring, WOW!

Honestly, I didn't like this anymore than I did Panic Room or The Game.

And please don't even get me started on the inconsistencies which brought me more than out of the film on several occasions, such as the movie's timeline spanning from 1967 to 1991, YET NO ONE AGED. Not a single grey hair! Hell, three decades were explored and no one even changed their haircuts!

Zodiac was a good film. Yet it's one that wore out its welcome for me somewhere within its near 180-minute run time.
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Uncle Creepy wrote:


And please don't even get me started on the inconsistencies which brought me more than out of the film on several occasions, such as the movie's timeline spanning from 1967 to 1991, YET NO ONE AGED. Not a single grey hair! Hell, three decades were explored and no one even changed their haircuts!


Yeah they did. Everyone got grey hair. In 91 we didn't see any of the main cast, so no one was looking that old.

Arthur Leigh Allen especially aged when we last see him in the utility store. Grey hairs all around. Same with Graysmith.
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THE GAME fucking rocks. And so does ZODIAC. PANIC ROOM, not so much, but it still looks fantastic.

That is all.
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Ilk, I think you need to look again.

NO ONE was grey. NO ONE aged. NO ONE looked even remotely different after decades had passed. In '91 We saw the cop from '81 (James LeGross) he looked EXACTLY the same.

***SPOILER***

And don't even get me started about the twenty something year old kid from STAY ALIVE who showed up at the end of the film portraying the first victim. He should have been well into hist forties.

***END SPOILER***
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Uncle Creepy wrote:
Honestly, I didn't like this anymore than I did Panic Room or The Game.



Panic Room's acceptable. But, if you or anybody else ever shit talks The Game again... I'm gonna go on making absurd and empty hyperbole-laden threats to your persons.

I really liked that movie.

Trying to go see Zodiac today, just depends on whether I can make it out to the theater.
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What would you have had them do instead, Creepy?

Use latex age makeup? That would look terrible on actors who are so obviously young. It would look like a bunch of creepy Norbits running around searching for the killer. Should they have cast different actors to play them older? Maybe if the film was directed by Luis Bu˝uel.

They did the best they could. They powdered the actors' hair and darkened the bags under their eyes a bit. Anything more than they did would have looked distracting. "Look, you can see the bald-wig on Jake's head!"

IMHO
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