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Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:20 pm
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Fuck yeah bitch!
Thanks for the good news!
Linda Blair? Fuck yes.
This season is going to be really good.
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Thu Sep 28, 2006 10:00 am
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| Tonight's premiere episode "In My Time of Dying" In the aftermath of the car crash, the surviving Winchesters go to the hospital, where one is stalked by a Reaper while another must consider sacrificing himself to save the others. |
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Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:49 pm
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I am soooo stoked for the season premiere tonight!
I'll say this, 'Supernatural' totally surpassed all of my expectations and turned out to be an exciting, scary, and well written show. |
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Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:19 am
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What'd you think?
***spoilers***
I knew that their father was toast the minute I read in the trades that Jeffrey Dean Morgan was going to have a lead role in Shonda Rimes' new TV project. No doubt we'll see alot of angst and yelling between Sam & Dean as they try to cope with what happened. What of the gun? It was made out to be the lynchpin of their arsenal and now it's in the demon's hands. As for some of what's to come, the creator of the series, Eric Kripke, said that over the course of the season they'll run into other hunters - not join up with them, just run into them. I'm really looking forward to Amber Benson's role in an upcoming episode as the leader of a group of vampires. Next week the Winchester Brothers face... an evil clown!
My favorite line of the night?
Dean: "I full-on Swayzed that mother!"
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Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:08 am
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| FilmCritic3000 wrote: | | Dean: "I full-on Swayzed that mother!" |
I LOVED that line, too.
I agree, this was a fantastic opener.
What I'm very glad about is that they didn't stretch out the whole "We're looking for dad, is he dead or alive?" theme that I thought they'd milk.
I'm so glad they ended this on a very wrenching note, and the episode was excellent. "Supernatural" is a series getting better and better as the time goes on.
The two actors have great chemistry, and now that they're alone, it will make for more volatile friction. I thought Morgan gave a great recurring performance, and his role as their dad was extremely memorable.
He was well written in that he was a combination of both of his sons, and the interplay between them was wonderful. I'm VERY sad to know he's died.
But I'm also extremely anxious to know what he whispered to Dean,
Who he gave the gun to,
What they'll do now that the gun is gone,
What Sam is going to face,
And what role Dean plays in the invevitable face off of the demon.
I'm also glad they're venturing into other things like vampires and monsters.
This show managed to do well in giving us ghosts, but a great variety of bad ass ghosts, but I'm also glad they're exploring other options.
I'm hooked again. This was a great night for television.
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Fri Sep 29, 2006 10:07 am
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| First I like the new Supernatural title opener, kind of sounds like a demon growling in the background. The episode was pretty good, but I knew the father wasn't going to be around once he gave Sam that note for what he needed. Wasn't too crazy about the CGI Reaper but it was funny that it took a female form for Dean. Looking forward to the next episodes. |
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Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:58 pm
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I totally dug the opener. Yeah, it's sad that Dad had to die, but who didn't see that coming? Maybe he'll reappear now and then to Sam what with his psychic powers.
Loved the whole Ouija board thing - and the female form of the Reaper.
It's off to a great start, and I'm already looking forward to next week!
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Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:07 pm
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| GODHOOD wrote: | | Wasn't too crazy about the CGI Reaper but it was funny that it took a female form for Dean. |
I was kind of annoyed, but it's typical WB/CW practice. Cast a hot person as a villain or antagonist.
However, I LOVED, loved, loved the whole concept of most demons being angry ghosts who couldn't accept death, and I LOVE how the writers are playing with the concept that the Winchester brothers could become evil so easily.
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Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:15 pm
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| Terminal wrote: | | However, I LOVED, loved, loved the whole concept of most demons being angry ghosts who couldn't accept death, and I LOVE how the writers are playing with the concept that the Winchester brothers could become evil so easily. |
That was great indeed!
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Fri Sep 29, 2006 5:17 pm
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| The Woman In Black wrote: | | Terminal wrote: | | However, I LOVED, loved, loved the whole concept of most demons being angry ghosts who couldn't accept death, and I LOVE how the writers are playing with the concept that the Winchester brothers could become evil so easily. |
That was great indeed! |
This premiere was fucking tight, and I'm fucking psyched to think what they have for us this season. If they can do a pretty antiquated device like ghosts making them menacing yet again, I'm in agony wondering what they'll do with Vampires.
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Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:33 am
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Two things.
1. Ratings and scheduling. Okay, you're the CW. You're two networks that failed on their own, desperately clinging to life by combining your efforts (and expenses). What the bloody hell do you run against the #1 and #2 shows? You HAVE to put something there. It's prime-time, you can't just run Let's Make A Deal re-runs from 1978. Okay, so you have a crime procedural on it's way out (who saw that Grey's Anatomy victory coming???) and a hot medical soap on it's way in. To top it all off, you have a hip young soap on the competition for 3rd/4th. Okay, so forget the young girls. Forget the adult men, and oh yeah, the adult women unless they foolishly kill off Patrick Dempsey over on Grey's.
What's left?
Hey, the horror geeks will keep tuning in, and we may catch some of the youngsters bored by The OC.
I see it as strategy, much like the Buffy/Angel role on the WB and later on UPN. Not victory, but reduced failure due to a heavy fanbase that's loyal and willing to TiVO this show as well as the big hits.
I can tell you one thing: this house watches Supernatural BEFORE CSI.
2. The season opener. SPOILERS!
Things they did right:
Well, almost everything.
STRANGLEHOLD, BABY! Bad Moon On The Rise! The kick-ass music programming continues. Way to edumacate the young emo fucks who only know Ted Nugent as that old crazy hunting dude.
Dad had to go. I said this at the end of last season, that the show and the brothers could never really grow as long as dad was lingering over their head. He's gone, time to stop relying on him and time to start forging your own legacy, fellas.
The reaper subplot: excellent. Bash the CGI reaper all you like, I dug it in a big way. Creepy, yet elegant, gentle almost. Never saw the girl/reaper surprise coming. That played out perfectly as well. Dean was ready to go, you could see it in his eyes.
The main demon's power. He can POSSESS a REAPER??? Holy fucking shit, yeah, that definitely ups the ante and lets us know this isn't some run of the mill resident of hell.
What they did wrong:
I have issues with Dad's sacrifice. You have the demon. He's right there. You have him dead bang with the one bullet in the universe that will stop him. What purpose does reviving Dean serve when that guy's still running around and gunning for them? If they can't stop him, he will slaughter Dean and take Sam for whatever purpose he wants him for. So, you save one son only until big bad demon daddy guts him, and then he takes the surviving son and does who knows what to him before, well, back to the gutting thing. Foolish move, and not one in keeping with Dad Winchester's character as we know him. Always another trick up his sleeve, always a back door to every plan.
They destroyed the car. I LOVED THAT CAR DAMMIT.
Coming up: What -did- Dad whisper to Dean? The truth about Sam? The truth that...they aren't exactly brothers? That's my theory. And that would mean...Sam has a 'son'...oh dear, all sorts of angst ahead on this one.
EVIL CLOWN. So looking forward to that. You just can't go wrong with an evil clown story. Boo for not being clever enough to cast Tim Curry, though.
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Sat Sep 30, 2006 6:02 pm
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| Mr. Dark wrote: | What they did wrong:
I have issues with Dad's sacrifice. You have the demon. He's right there. You have him dead bang with the one bullet in the universe that will stop him. What purpose does reviving Dean serve when that guy's still running around and gunning for them? If they can't stop him, he will slaughter Dean and take Sam for whatever purpose he wants him for. So, you save one son only until big bad demon daddy guts him, and then he takes the surviving son and does who knows what to him before, well, back to the gutting thing. Foolish move, and not one in keeping with Dad Winchester's character as we know him. Always another trick up his sleeve, always a back door to every plan. |
It was not a dumb move because it was perfectly sensible. Dean was going to die, he was about to accept his fate, and dad sacrificed himself. Not to mention two young men serve a better use than an older man who has basically tired of fighting every single day.
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Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:23 pm
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| Terminal wrote: |
It was not a dumb move because it was perfectly sensible. Dean was going to die, he was about to accept his fate, and dad sacrificed himself. Not to mention two young men serve a better use than an older man who has basically tired of fighting every single day. |
Yeah, but he knows damn well Dean killed this demon's kin. He's a dead man as soon as this demon or his men get the chance. If the demon is -dead-, then at least he and Sam could find some peace. If he's still walking around, with Dad dead, it's only a matter of time before Sam and Dean join him.
Unless, of course, Dad knew of some other way to kill the demon. Problem is, he spent most of the end of last season saying 'this is our only chance'.
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Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:29 pm
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| Mr. Dark wrote: | | Terminal wrote: |
It was not a dumb move because it was perfectly sensible. Dean was going to die, he was about to accept his fate, and dad sacrificed himself. Not to mention two young men serve a better use than an older man who has basically tired of fighting every single day. |
Yeah, but he knows damn well Dean killed this demon's kin. He's a dead man as soon as this demon or his men get the chance. If the demon is -dead-, then at least he and Sam could find some peace. If he's still walking around, with Dad dead, it's only a matter of time before Sam and Dean join him.
Unless, of course, Dad knew of some other way to kill the demon. Problem is, he spent most of the end of last season saying 'this is our only chance'. |
This is why I don't feel that it was necessarily a dumb move. I do see your point as it does seem awfully uncharacteristic of John to make room for the demon to have his way with Sam and Dean.
But who knows? Maybe John did indeed figure another way to kill the demon. He spent quite a bit of time thinking and pondering while in bed and while sitting next to Dean while Dean was still comatose. Perhaps he does have another plan...possibly a spiritual or psychic one...such as the possibility of contacting and helping the boys via Sam's powers or something similar.
And count me in as another person just itching to know what he said to Dean.  |
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Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:30 pm
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| Mr. Dark wrote: | | Terminal wrote: |
It was not a dumb move because it was perfectly sensible. Dean was going to die, he was about to accept his fate, and dad sacrificed himself. Not to mention two young men serve a better use than an older man who has basically tired of fighting every single day. |
Yeah, but he knows damn well Dean killed this demon's kin. He's a dead man as soon as this demon or his men get the chance. If the demon is -dead-, then at least he and Sam could find some peace. If he's still walking around, with Dad dead, it's only a matter of time before Sam and Dean join him.
Unless, of course, Dad knew of some other way to kill the demon. Problem is, he spent most of the end of last season saying 'this is our only chance'. |
You completely missed the point.
His dad made a deal with the demon. The demon wanted retribution, his offspring were killed, so Dean had to go, but the dad offered his own life to protect Dean.
Dean and Sam are in the clear now, because their dad sold the best protection, and his soul for complete safety from those demons.
Will we not see them again? If the writers run out of ideas, it's a possibility, but they have protection because their dad made a deal.
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