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| Forums Index -> Dread Central Cinema -> 4-30-2010 - Psycho |
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Sat May 01, 2010 3:12 am
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| LivingDeadPunk wrote: | | ImTheMoon wrote: | | LivingDeadPunk wrote: | | You have to wonder, after looking in the ledger, seeing the name there, does he already know? Is he aware of what's going to happen? Or at least, some part of him? |
I think consciously he knows she's lying/running form something, but I don't think he knows his alter sees her as a rival and wants to kill her. |
But it almost seems like he knows. Like he wants her, wants the satisfaction of having her in his own way or his mother's way, so he facilitates or at least allows mother to do what she's going to do, while still keeping himself separate from the events. |
I mean, the phony name, the running away... He recognizes her as an ideal victim in some way. |
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Sat May 01, 2010 3:13 am
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| ImTheMoon wrote: | | LivingDeadPunk wrote: | | ImTheMoon wrote: | | LivingDeadPunk wrote: | | The scene that spawned a million imitations... |
and never once shows the blade cutting or penetrating her skin. |
And the reason, along with the video for I Always Feel Like (Somebody's Watchin' Me) that I never shower. |
and NOES makes taking a bath impossible.... you're doomed to reek |
Do you know how many bathtubs I've slept in without ever thinking about that scene? But now you totally ruined that for me. |
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Sat May 01, 2010 3:17 am
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and here's Sam Loomis before he got his PhD  |
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Sat May 01, 2010 3:28 am
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| Am I wrong for hating that bully Arbogast and feeling bad for Norman because he was trying to push him around? |
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Sat May 01, 2010 3:28 am
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| BlackFlagg wrote: | | and here's Sam Loomis before he got his PhD |
it's how he knows the face of evil so well. |
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Sat May 01, 2010 3:32 am
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| LivingDeadPunk wrote: | | Am I wrong for hating that bully Arbogast and feeling bad for Norman because he was trying to push him around? |
No, that was Hitchcock's intention. He wanted the audience to transfer their sympathy from Marion to Norman. The first time you watch this you feel bad because you think this poor guy is trapped and covering for his insane, murderous mother. The Second time you feel so bad because this guy is seriously sick and in need or help, but no one ever got to know him well enough to bothered noticing. |
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Sat May 01, 2010 3:36 am
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| ImTheMoon wrote: | | LivingDeadPunk wrote: | | Am I wrong for hating that bully Arbogast and feeling bad for Norman because he was trying to push him around? |
No, that was Hitchcock's intention. He wanted the audience to transfer their sympathy from Marion to Norman. The first time you watch this you feel bad because you think this poor guy is trapped and covering for his insane, murderous mother. The Second time you feel so bad because this guy is seriously sick and in need or help, but no one ever got to know him well enough to bothered noticing. |
I feel so manipulated. |
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Sat May 01, 2010 3:46 am
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Sat May 01, 2010 3:47 am
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| LivingDeadPunk wrote: | | ImTheMoon wrote: | | LivingDeadPunk wrote: | | Am I wrong for hating that bully Arbogast and feeling bad for Norman because he was trying to push him around? |
No, that was Hitchcock's intention. He wanted the audience to transfer their sympathy from Marion to Norman. The first time you watch this you feel bad because you think this poor guy is trapped and covering for his insane, murderous mother. The Second time you feel so bad because this guy is seriously sick and in need or help, but no one ever got to know him well enough to bothered noticing. |
I feel so manipulated. |
as you should |
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Sat May 01, 2010 3:55 am
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| ImTheMoon wrote: | | LivingDeadPunk wrote: | | ImTheMoon wrote: | | LivingDeadPunk wrote: | | Am I wrong for hating that bully Arbogast and feeling bad for Norman because he was trying to push him around? |
No, that was Hitchcock's intention. He wanted the audience to transfer their sympathy from Marion to Norman. The first time you watch this you feel bad because you think this poor guy is trapped and covering for his insane, murderous mother. The Second time you feel so bad because this guy is seriously sick and in need or help, but no one ever got to know him well enough to bothered noticing. |
I feel so manipulated. |
as you should |
Even more so than when Bill Pullman's "Today is our independence day" speech from ID4 made me cry. |
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Sat May 01, 2010 3:56 am
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Sat May 01, 2010 3:56 am
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Sat May 01, 2010 3:57 am
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| you're sister is the undead....living impaired if you will |
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Sat May 01, 2010 4:03 am
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Creepiest...grin...Ever! |
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Sat May 01, 2010 4:04 am
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