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Buffy/Angel -- Best Character Development?
Buffy
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Angel
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Willow
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Xander
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Cordelia
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Wesley
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Fred
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Mary Henry
PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:37 pm  Reply with quote



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I always thought the character development in Buffy and Angel was remarkably good, requiring both plausible plot turns and actors who could make them believable. So ... which character do you think showed the best development, and why?

(No Cordelia bustline jokes, please.)

(See accompanying thread for "Worst Character Development," soon to follow.)
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Sirand
PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:40 pm  Reply with quote
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It's so hard to pick a favorite.

Spike, Willow, Wesley, and Faith all had great characters arcs. But I might have to say Cordi, because I hated her throughout all of Buffy and then suddenly started to really like her mid-way through Angel.

*Spoiler*

(I finally got to the episode where she died. *sniff*)


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Mary Henry
PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 10:41 pm  Reply with quote



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Right, Sirand, I should have included Spike and Faith.

-edit - And Anya!


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I voted for Wesley. His character, to me anyway, was the most radically changed of anyone's. He went from a sniveling, whiny, by-the-book watcher who couldn't even kiss properly and never knew what the right thing to do was.....to a hardened (except when it came to Fred), wiser, do-what-you-must guy who had an affair with an evil lawyer and someone who, for the most part, tried to do the right thing (even if he went about it in the wrong way).
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Elf
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:50 am  Reply with quote



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I'd have to go with Wesley Wyndom Price as well as the most developed character. He started out on Buffy as this Holier-than-thou, snively, coward, stuffy watcher and ended up this dark, determined and steadfast warrior. He also took a dark turn when he stole Connor away from Angel and then he started sleeping with Lilah . . .

And don't even get me started with season five. XD

Second most developed character would be Spike.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 3:12 am  Reply with quote



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Wesley for sure
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 4:04 pm  Reply with quote
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I liked Wesley's evolution a lot, but I went with Willow - mainly I think because given the fact of Wesley's upbringing his rebellions and ultimate character weren't that surprising... but Willow's tranformations really required her to step far and away beyond anything anyone else was doing.

She goes from this shy, timid little mouse of a tech geek in season 1 to ultra powerful uber witch and super hottie who saves the world. Her arc with Xander melded into her arc with Oz, which transitioned into her arc with Tara. You follow her struggle to become a witch, and then control her addiction, and then come back from it. She goes from little girl to grown woman and manages to make all manner of unbelievable occurences accesible emotionally.

I happen to think Willow is one of the best Buffy characters of all, actually.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:05 pm  Reply with quote



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I'm with HC on this. I think Willow was the best developed character. I just watched the episode this morning where Tara and Buffy get shot and just those few minutes of Willow going from sheer joy at being back with Tara to holding Tara's dead body in her arms - amazing acting.

I also think Spike's character development was great. from trouble making Billy Idol look a like threatening Buffy in Season 2, to confused and conflicted by the end of season 6, to emotional wreck through most of season 7, his character became one of my favorites.

I am only 5 episides into Angel, so I can't comment on Cordi or Wesley.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:17 pm  Reply with quote
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It was a tough call, but I went with Wesley also. My second choice would be Spike.

Willow did go through some stuff, but for whatever reason I never really completely warmed to her character. Same with Cordelia -- the whole pregnancy and Connor thing just didn't do it for me.

Excellent idea for a thread, MH!
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Another vote for Wesley. It wasn't just that the character was so different from the start of Buffy to the end of Angel (to the point where if you showed episodes to someone not familiar with the show, they likely wouldn't recognize them as the same character). But that the character arc was done believably and gradually (and well done). Spike, Cordy, Willow -- for me their arcs had bumps in the road which I didn't always buy (or didn't think were done well).
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2006 7:59 pm  Reply with quote



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Willow.

Wesley's development just wasn't believable to me.
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Angelus
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Ok, so i thought about the whole best/worst character development thing since I saw the thread and I can honestly say that I can't really pic just one as the best or worst. Wesley had and amazing development, to see him go from the thorn in the side, by the book outsider in Buffy to an essential member and strong character in Angel was amazing. Cordelia in Buffy is almost night and day to her character in Angel and it was great to see how she really took the role of in my opinion Angel's anchor through the latter seasons. Angel and Spike were always the same with mild shifts in how good or evil they were (no matter how "good" Angel was, he was still fairly vicious). I'm surprised to see Gunn missing from the list since he went from a thug vampire killer in the first season to serious lawyer in season 5 (implant or not, he owned that part). And even if they were supposed to be different characters Fred/Illyria had a major arc. The first time i saw Fred cease to be the sweet southern girl and become a cold as ice demon goddess it sent chills down my spine, and while the arc was sadly short it was indeed a huge and well done arc. Another missing person from the list was Darla, you can't forget her going from queen of evil to a confused vampire with a soul and ultimately when she sacrificed herself to give birth to Connor she cemented what was a very long and surprising arc. I'm done now, the list for worst character development might be a little easier.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:00 pm  Reply with quote
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Willow is my choice, but Spike is right up there with her.

The ONLY character that I think could've possibly spun-off with her own series.
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Mary Henry
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Ah, heck.

The other threads have been bumped so I'll give this a bump as well.
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Wesley all the way. Not only is it amazing, it's utterly believable.

What a tragic arc though. That man went through some serious shit.
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