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Rorschach
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:42 am  Reply with quote



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Looked around, didn't see one, and though this would be a good topic to start.

I read RUINS back when I was still in high school....then I went and checked out the story that it is a rebuttal to, MARVELS. I have to say, RUINS impacted me a lot more than MARVELS did.

I mean, we ALL know how the Marvel universe turned out when things went like they were supposed to....but seeing things gone horribly, horribly tragic for just about every major Marvel hero....WOW.

And some of the images in that series....goddamn. Especially the Hulk.

Anyone else here read RUINS?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:32 am  Reply with quote



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No, but now i'd like to.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:14 pm  Reply with quote
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Christ, this sounds so cool.

I'm not into comics like I used to be and have only kept a passable interest in them in the last few years, but after reading about this series on Wikipedia I'm really interested in checking it out.

I love the whole deconstruction of the heroes mentality.
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Gus Bjork
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:48 pm  Reply with quote



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I dunno. Is this a parody? From reading about it, it sounds like that's the only way it would work.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:21 am  Reply with quote



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It's not a parody....more like a twisted, Stephen King-like reimagining of the classic "Marvel heroes" moments.

Like I said, it's really not for the faint of heart....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruins_%28comics%29

There are SPOILERS on that Wiki page, though, so be CAREFUL as you view it.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:58 am  Reply with quote



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I'm gonna see if I can track down a torrent of this.
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Rorschach
PostPosted: Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:00 pm  Reply with quote



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I was thinking about it more yesterday, and I think what appeals to me about RUINS is it's "realism" versus the gauzy, wonderous, "everything's ok" feel of MARVELS.

I mean, seeing these characters made victims of the very acts that made them "superheroes" in the MARVELS world just seems more in keeping with reality.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:28 am  Reply with quote



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I dunno. Is grim and gritty and full of despair considered 'realism?". Certainly getting exposed to excessive radiation in real life isn't turning people into superheroes but I have to say the Frank Miller / Alan Moore shift in the 80's got, I dunno, slutty maybe with all the comics going for dark and nasty. After a while it pretty much turned me off comics.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:43 am  Reply with quote



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I get your point....and I don't know if "realism" is the right word to use there. But RUINS spoke to me moreso than MARVELS did, because it took all the horrid bitterness of the real world, and infected the Marvel Universe with it, like a disease. All those magical "look, Peter Parker got bitten by a radioactive spider! He's a hero now!" moments got perverted into something darker, something,....twisted. Instead, the moment became, "Peter Parker was bitten by a radiated spider....now he has a horrible disease that's slowly killing his blood cells, causing him hideous pain and disfigurement. YUCK!".

What really stunned me was that it was only two issues....had they had more time, or more issues to play with, this thing could have been one of the dark masterpieces of comic history. Then again, even at only two issues, they still made a pretty damn big impression on me as is.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:28 pm  Reply with quote



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They certainly crammed lots of badness in those.
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