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Ultimo Franco
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:12 am  Reply with quote



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kILLmEsLOWLY wrote:
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ZODIAC is to serial killer films what BOOGIE NIGHTS is to the golden age of the porn film.

I'm unsure if that is a compliment or a degradation? Shocked

I meant the comparision between ZODIAC and BOOGIE NIGHTS to be complimentary. I'm guessing you're not a fan of BN.

For me, both films are stylish, ensemble period pieces, full of rich detail and authenticity. Both tell multiple storylines that cover a long period of time. Both do their best to capture the feel of a specific time and a particular place. Both use vintage songs in unexpected and haunting ways. Both contain moments of sudden violence directed with showstopping skill. Both are the work of artists who care a great deal about their subjects, who weren't just hired on. Both a challenging adult dramas, movies for grown ups.

and I think they're both GREAT movies. I'd put them up there with large-canvas films about life in America like NASHVILLE, GANGS OF NEW YORK, RAGTIME, ALL THE PRESIDENTS MEN.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:27 am  Reply with quote
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Ultimo Franco wrote:
kILLmEsLOWLY wrote:
Ultimo Franco wrote:
ZODIAC is to serial killer films what BOOGIE NIGHTS is to the golden age of the porn film.

I'm unsure if that is a compliment or a degradation? Shocked

I meant the comparision between ZODIAC and BOOGIE NIGHTS to be complimentary. I'm guessing you're not a fan of BN.

For me, both films are stylish, ensemble period pieces, full of rich detail and authenticity. Both tell multiple storylines that cover a long period of time. Both do their best to capture the feel of a specific time and a particular place. Both use vintage songs in unexpected and haunting ways. Both contain moments of sudden violence directed with showstopping skill. Both are the work of artists who care a great deal about their subjects, who weren't just hired on. Both a challenging adult dramas, movies for grown ups.

and I think they're both GREAT movies. I'd put them up there with large-canvas films about life in America like NASHVILLE, GANGS OF NEW YORK, RAGTIME, ALL THE PRESIDENTS MEN.


Very good comparisons. I completely agree.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:09 am  Reply with quote
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What's the song that plays at the end of Zodiac?
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Nevermind, figured it out. Hurdy Gurdy Man by Donovan.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:13 am  Reply with quote



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Ultimo Franco wrote:
kILLmEsLOWLY wrote:
Ultimo Franco wrote:
ZODIAC is to serial killer films what BOOGIE NIGHTS is to the golden age of the porn film.

I'm unsure if that is a compliment or a degradation? Shocked

I meant the comparision between ZODIAC and BOOGIE NIGHTS to be complimentary. I'm guessing you're not a fan of BN.

Thanks for the clear up - I'm quite a fan of Boogie Nights and now know you are too Very Happy
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Fantastic! It seems like this may end up being Fincher's Jackie Brown.
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bart138 wrote:
Fantastic! It seems like this may end up being Fincher's Jackie Brown.


I don't know, I think Alien 3 is Finchers Jackie Brown.
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Atomic_Ilk wrote:
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Fantastic! It seems like this may end up being Fincher's Jackie Brown.


I don't know, I think Alien 3 is Finchers Jackie Brown.

Alien 3 sucks. Jackie Brown, not so much.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:41 am  Reply with quote
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bart138 wrote:
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bart138 wrote:
Fantastic! It seems like this may end up being Fincher's Jackie Brown.


I don't know, I think Alien 3 is Finchers Jackie Brown.

Alien 3 sucks. Jackie Brown, not so much.


Wrong. Alien 3 is wonderful. Please see the Alien 3 thread for further details on why. Wink
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I saw this tonight. It was good I liked it. The story flowed smoothly and it didn't drag at all.
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Ultimo Franco wrote:

I meant the comparision between ZODIAC and BOOGIE NIGHTS to be complimentary. I'm guessing you're not a fan of BN.

For me, both films are stylish, ensemble period pieces, full of rich detail and authenticity. Both tell multiple storylines that cover a long period of time. Both do their best to capture the feel of a specific time and a particular place. Both use vintage songs in unexpected and haunting ways. Both contain moments of sudden violence directed with showstopping skill. Both are the work of artists who care a great deal about their subjects, who weren't just hired on. Both a challenging adult dramas, movies for grown ups.

and I think they're both GREAT movies. I'd put them up there with large-canvas films about life in America like NASHVILLE, GANGS OF NEW YORK, RAGTIME, ALL THE PRESIDENTS MEN.


nice comparison franco!!
i don't think i'd ever have thought of those similarities but they are spot on in my opinion.

aside from all of the amazingness, zodiac avoided one of the things i hate about serial killer flicks, getting into the back story of the officer(s) on the case. i was SO happy that this wasn't the case. the approach they took was perfect i thought; it allowed for exploring everything needed w/o having to force anything or leave out any details.

and alien 3 is awesome!!
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I saw this wonderful flick last night and must say that it is a long, long time ago I last saw a film this good in the theatre. (probably Munich, maybe not even then) Unless something even better comes along, I'm hoping on an Oscar for David Fincher - since it's clear how easily a lesser filmmaker could have sunk this project.

Oh yeah, and this is probably the only movie ever to replace the Spring-Loaded Cat with a Spring-Loaded ChloŽ Sevigny.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:36 am  Reply with quote



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This is the kind of modern masterpiece that deserves the Criterion Collection DVD treatment down the line. I'd love to see the missing material with Robert Downey Jr's character.

Easily my favorite film of the year.
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Ultimo Franco wrote:
I'd love to see the missing material with Robert Downey Jr's character.


Yeah - I noticed that at some point, he just disappeared totally from the plot before resurfacing as this crazy reclusive lunatic.

The missing material probably didn't shed that much light on how he became that way than what was left in.
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I just saw this movie, and I loved it. I haven't seen many movies in 2007 as of yet, but this one is the best so far. Fincher really directed his ass off here and created a very dark, creepy, 70s-style atmosphere. The acting was also fantastic. According to the DVD, a director's cut will be released next year with a ton of special features involving the actual case. I'm damn excited about that.

This film probably came out too early for Oscar contention, but I do hope it gets recognized at least a bit. Awesome movie.

8/10
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